HPL Premium Cold Climate CK-4 HDEO -- Noack/TGA?

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I'm curious about the volatility of HPL Premium Cold Climate 5w-40 CK4 HDEO. ASTM D6375 is fine; I am aware they don't test for traditional Noack via ASTM D5800 (per a search here for existing answers). The reason for my inquiry is for a potential air-cooled engine application, specifically a Generac GP6700E.

I'm also curious if the PDS (https://www.hplubricants.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/HD-CK4-Engine-Oil-PDS.pdf) has a typo. The 0W-30 lists 5,314 cP @ -35C; while the 5W-40 lists 3,551 cP @ -30C. I fear that '3' should be a '5', although that's still great.

As for why a boutique oil in a cheap portable generator with a Chonda engine? It was purchased during a two-week power outage during an ice storm earlier this year (Winter Storm Fern), lows were around 0F. This summer we've frequently had highs around 100F interspersed with storms. It's got some flavor of Mobil 1 5W-30 in it now (I can't recall if it was "High Mileage" or "Extended Performance"; whatever I had around for the ol' Subaru).

Perhaps I'm over-reacting a bit from horror stories of Floridians toasting their gensets on 5W-30. I strongly suspect that lots of folks were hot loading fuel and never checking the oil until it locked up after 5+ days of continuous runtime, at which point it had probably consumed most of the ~1 quart of oil they hold. I can't see a little splash lube engine running at 3,600 RPM shearing down any decent synthetic in that time, even in the Florida heat, but consumption via combustion (unavoidable other than going thicker AFAIK) and evaporative losses...
 
Nothing wrong with the specs I don't think you understand them.
On the contrary, I don’t think you understand how exceptional 3,551 cP @ -30 would be for a 5W oil.

Unless you’re from HPL, I don’t believe your input is adding any value here. Datasheet typos happen, it doesn’t mean it isn’t an exceptional company making exceptionally good products. Even if they really meant 5,551 cP @ -30C, there’s still nothing better from any competition I’m aware of, and a correction to an honest mistake on a PDS doesn’t diminish a company’s reputation. And if the 3,551 number is correct, I’d be happy to hear that from someone at HPL.
 
On the contrary, I don’t think you understand how exceptional 3,551 cP @ -30 would be for a 5W oil.

Unless you’re from HPL, I don’t believe your input is adding any value here. Datasheet typos happen, it doesn’t mean it isn’t an exceptional company making exceptionally good products. Even if they really meant 5,551 cP @ -30C, there’s still nothing better from any competition I’m aware of, and a correction to an honest mistake on a PDS doesn’t diminish a company’s reputation. And if the 3,551 number is correct, I’d be happy to hear that from someone at HPL.
Well email them if tou think I'm full of it.
What do you think that specific fluid was built for and why it's called cold climate
 
On the contrary, I don’t think you understand how exceptional 3,551 cP @ -30 would be for a 5W oil.

Unless you’re from HPL, I don’t believe your input is adding any value here. Datasheet typos happen, it doesn’t mean it isn’t an exceptional company making exceptionally good products. Even if they really meant 5,551 cP @ -30C, there’s still nothing better from any competition I’m aware of, and a correction to an honest mistake on a PDS doesn’t diminish a company’s reputation. And if the 3,551 number is correct, I’d be happy to hear that from someone at HPL.

@dsykes the value of 3,551 is correct. The last production batch we made of this product came in at 3,601 cP@-30C. We specifically designed this to have exceptionally good cold temperature properties (CCS, MRV and pour point).
 
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