I work for a DOT and they use primarily all recycled oil in their fleet. The name of the stuff is AMERICA'S something or other. What do you guys think in general of this type of oil?
How good is recycled dino oil???
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In the U.K. a popular oil was Duckhams 'Q' I belive it was recycled, and was the Factory fill for Rolls Royce.
America's Choice? This is the Safety-Kleen re-refined motor oil.
Link for The America's Choice Website
Link to the description of Safety-Kleen's Recyled Motor Oil program.
Never actually viewed any info on this oil, it is fully licensed by the API. The product data sheet indicates that the 5w30 & 10w30 both are 11 cSt oils, so they run slightly thicker than the major brands, but not a problem.
I'd like to see Butler Cat labs run a VOA on the 5w30.
Link for The America's Choice Website
Link to the description of Safety-Kleen's Recyled Motor Oil program.
Never actually viewed any info on this oil, it is fully licensed by the API. The product data sheet indicates that the 5w30 & 10w30 both are 11 cSt oils, so they run slightly thicker than the major brands, but not a problem.
I'd like to see Butler Cat labs run a VOA on the 5w30.
http://www.ac-rerefined.com/
They used to sell these at Walmart.. dunno what happened.
better america... recycled Oil
They used to sell these at Walmart.. dunno what happened.
better america... recycled Oil
My experience with re-cycled engine oil is that its like recycled Beer it comes out as **** can not recommend, usually sold in Super-Markets under no name brand would not use on the chain
of my push bike.
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means URINE.
If you really think about it all beer is recycled....they didn't create the water in it from scratch
It seems as though a recycled base stock would be as good as anything else. Shoot the GIII's might be using old oil to hydro crack for all I know.
If you think about it the recycled oil must have some gr.3 and some gr.4 since it is made with previously used oil. Awhile back I read about the process that SK uses and to be honest I would have no problem using it in my daily driver (for a conservative OCI) as long as it met the required specs. Would I use it in my new big $$$$ sports car (if I had one) probably not.quote:
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It seems as though a recycled base stock would be as good as anything else. Shoot the GIII's might be using old oil to hydro crack for all I know.
My department has used Americas Choice 5-30 in our patrol cars for several years now. Most of them make it well over 100k without any real issues at 5k OCI's. My last CVPI had 106k when it was taken out of service. It would always get past the 4k point and then start showing around a half qt low just before it was time to change it.
There's no automatic reason it isn't every bit as good as new.
I mean, think about it. What is crude oil? Black syrup that comes out of a hole in the ground that we think is probably decomposed animals from long, long ago. So, it's not like "new" motor oil isn't recycled.
At the same time, it causes lots of folks (like me) a mental block so we don't use it.
I mean, think about it. What is crude oil? Black syrup that comes out of a hole in the ground that we think is probably decomposed animals from long, long ago. So, it's not like "new" motor oil isn't recycled.
At the same time, it causes lots of folks (like me) a mental block so we don't use it.
Thanks guys!
Recycled Oil is just as good as oil using Virgin Basestock.... The question is how good is SK's Additive Package.
BTW LAPD uses Union 76 Recycled HDEO 15w40 in all their vehicles.
Gene
BTW LAPD uses Union 76 Recycled HDEO 15w40 in all their vehicles.
Gene
My brother in law used 15-40 Walmart Safety Kleen recycled oil on 100 hour OCIs on two John Deere diesels on his ranch year round. He swears by it and those Deeres are his lifeline for his living. I still refuse to use Recycled oil, whatever one believes in.
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Cyprs
Should be every bit as good as oil produced from something found in the ground.
If re-refined oil is just filtered and re-additized, it will be poor oil.
If re-refined oil is hydotreated or hydroconverted or whatever, it becomes good base oil. One environmental advantage of rerefined oil is that it takes less energy to produce base oil than refining crude oil.
Ken
If re-refined oil is hydotreated or hydroconverted or whatever, it becomes good base oil. One environmental advantage of rerefined oil is that it takes less energy to produce base oil than refining crude oil.
Ken
"The re-refining process removes additives, dirt and contaminants, leaving a pure base lubricating stock. New additives are then blended with this pure base stock to create a motor oil that meets car manufacturer warranties and American Petroleum Institute (API) specifications...Used oil can be re-refined because the base lubricating stock doesn't wear out or break down with use-it just gets dirty. API-certified re-refined oil is endorsed by Ford, Chrysler, General Motors, Volvo and Mercedes-Benz, and Mercedes-Benz uses it in all its German-made cars as factory fill. Also, the 1996 NASCAR Winston West Champion race car uses it."
http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/1997/081197nr1.htm
"Once the engine, which had 318,000 miles logged on it, was revealed during the teardown, it was in virtually new condition. Daniels credits quality lubricants such as 76 Lubricants Firebird 15w40, a product of ConocoPhillips Company, as “one of the driving forces” behind the incomparable engine wear. Daniels noted little wear, including limited bearing wear, no visible sign of cylinder wear and no sludge build up on the inside. Once again, the re-refined oil had proven itself to the technicians at Kings County Metro Transit that it could perform as well as, or better than, their previous stock."
http://www.76lubricants.com/news/metro.asp
http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/1997/081197nr1.htm
"Once the engine, which had 318,000 miles logged on it, was revealed during the teardown, it was in virtually new condition. Daniels credits quality lubricants such as 76 Lubricants Firebird 15w40, a product of ConocoPhillips Company, as “one of the driving forces” behind the incomparable engine wear. Daniels noted little wear, including limited bearing wear, no visible sign of cylinder wear and no sludge build up on the inside. Once again, the re-refined oil had proven itself to the technicians at Kings County Metro Transit that it could perform as well as, or better than, their previous stock."
http://www.76lubricants.com/news/metro.asp
Used motor oil is probably cleaner than some grades of "crude" oil. Im confident that it can be filtered and cleaned and reused without much problem.
Oil refiners often "clean" oil and treat it before they actually refine it so cleaning used motor oil isnt really a lot different.
Happy Motoring All,
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Bugshu
Oil refiners often "clean" oil and treat it before they actually refine it so cleaning used motor oil isnt really a lot different.
Happy Motoring All,
Bugshu
I wouldn't even use it in my lawnmower.
It makes sense that recycled oil can be made into a decent oil, but I wonder how they separate the different components.
If they distill the stuff, I'm sure it can be made pretty clean. If they just filter it, I'd be concerned about the guy who poured his DOT-5 brake fluid or his ATF into the used oil tank.
If they distill the stuff, I'm sure it can be made pretty clean. If they just filter it, I'd be concerned about the guy who poured his DOT-5 brake fluid or his ATF into the used oil tank.
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