How does one become "non-hypertensive"?

[Gary Allan]

Now I'm surely of the notion that there's no cure for hypertension ..but for some odd reason, with no apparent changes in anything. No exercise ..no medications ..no other altering events..

I get normal ..in fact preferred bp numbers (read by the professionals themselves) when unmedicated. I was taking prinavil (a vascular dilator) but had not been taking it for a bit (I know-BAD GARY) ...when I had cause to have a minor elective surgery this past week ..I told them of my current prescribed meds ..and noted that the readings were (when at rest - in bed -sometimes asleep) 100/60. Today ..even with a 93 pulse rate (walking for a large person takes cardiac output

) ..it was like 120/72.

How is this possible? I'm the same lazy sack of dung I always was (I always kept myself in reserve ...just in case the light work got out of hand)

 

[carlprop]

How's your cholesterol level? Could be your diet like less salt, etc. Also stress might have an effect.

 

[Gary Allan]

My cholesterol hasn't been checked lately, but it's been treated with Lipitor ..but it was only slightly elevated above 200. Naturally the HDLP were in the tank and LDLP were the lion's share of the total. I wasn't "that bad" but with my other risk factors (and probably generous gratis junkets from the drug companies) my doctor(s) appear to like the most expensive drugs for that leading edge effect.

I'm over due for a battery of blood level tests (A1C, etc.) ..but what I'm really waiting to hear is how its impossible to become non-hypertensive once you're hypertensive (something that's generally accepted ..or was accepted) UNLESS you've got one of two or three MORE SERIOUS conditions and I should be dialing 911 NOW!

 

[moribundman]

Feel for a pulse.

 

[MarkC]

He just discovered Zen, and is now one with his blood pressure.

 

[carlprop]

Ohmmm

 

[Gary Allan]

The Tao (or Dao) of GARY

This could be just what I'm looking for
(visions of "Otho" in Beetle Juice ...who knew all about the paranormal and was a consultant "until the bottom fell out" of the market for paranormal consultants)

 

[Dr_No]

Try flax seed oil.
Real flax seeds will not do you any good.
Unless you eat by the handful

 

[Gary Allan]

Don't blame flax seed oil for my condition!!! It's not its fault

 

[Dr_No]

Flax seed oil is the cure to everything.
Drink it like beer.

 

[Shannow]

Gary,
a workmate brought his way down (shocked his doctor) by buying a dirt bike, and using it hard.

Had some sort of outlet for his frustrations, got his mind completely off everything else except dodging trees for 3 hours a week, and his body seems to have responded.

 

[obbop]

The 22-year-old lad attending UC Davis was a marvelous physical specimen who also excelled academically.

Popular with pert' near all who met him, the lad planned to become a surgeon.

His sports achievements were many; football, track, and a couple other sports where his performances were equaled by few.

Walking on campus one day he keeled over and convulsed while on-lookers watched him die.

An autopsy showed that the years of physical training had caused his heart to grow, as muscles will do. In this lad's instance, the growth ws also inward, reducing the volume of his heart chambers until a critical point was reached and the abnormally small chambers could not pump enough blood, stressing the entire body resulting in cardiac arrest.

Old Coot learned a lesson from this true story read about back in the early 1980s.

Sit on your butt and relax and eat whatcha' want.

Burp

 

[Cutehumor]

that's like how people say "My dad smoked 3 packs a day and lived till he was 85" stories so they rationale smoking for themselves

 

[Shannow]

Cutehumour, you've got to take old coot's posts with a grain of potassium chloride.

 

[Master ACiD]

cute, my stepdad does smoke 3 packs a day! he is right about 70, and doesnt have cancer or any smoking related illness. hes been smoking this much for atleast 30 years.

 

[Merkava_4]

I've been taking Coumadin (pronouced koo-ma-din) for the last couple of months. Blood pressure has dropped to like 115/60; that's lower than when I was a 20 year old. The stuff does to blood what lacquer thinner does to grease. I've got 5W-20 running in my veins.

 

[Papa Bear]

Welcome to old age....

 

[Gary Allan]

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Gary,
a workmate brought his way down (shocked his doctor) by buying a dirt bike, and using it hard.

Had some sort of outlet for his frustrations, got his mind completely off everything else except dodging trees for 3 hours a week, and his body seems to have responded.

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I don't know what stress has been eliminated ..but admittedly, I don't worry about much these days.

I just didn't see any apparent cause and effect for the sudden change in diastolic pressure. The systolic was always in a favorable range ..but that blood slamming against the closed valve always seem to border on the hose rupturing threshold as my heart acted like a kid playing with the pistol grip garden hose in providing the shock wave to the plumbing.

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I've been taking Coumadin

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I've been on Coumadin. When I hyper extended my knee and destroyed my meniscus ..I coincidentally had a blood clot travel down my leg. I thought it was a really bad leg cramp (why do they always seem to originate on the interior thigh where it's the hardest to "stretch out" in mechanical countermeasures

) ...so didn't think anything of it since it didn't reappear. After the therapy/treatments progressed, one of the doctors noted the "thumb print" residual when pressing on the leg. He asked how my heart was ...which was fine (this is about, in total, a year later). So, after the knee was fixed ..my doctor ordered the scan that finally found the clot. Put me in the hospital for a day or two ..and put me on Cumadin. Now my doctor is a great guy. He's very accommodating for people like me who "gotztwonoz" about such things. He also is willing to be aggressive (OgressIF- crock hunter RIP) if the patient is willing. He told me that the normal therapy for the first incident is 3 months. That progresses to 6 months for the second clot ..then one year for the third. Beyond that, it's the umbrella insertion to catch the clots. I think the protocols may have changed since 97 when this happened to me and the umbrella may not wait for three clotting events.

Anyway he agreed, at my request, to advance to the second clot therapy stage (6 months). My blood testing schedule didn't catch that my clotting factor was too low ..and I started to urinate "ice tea" one day. I went into the doctor and, with a smile, told him of the tinted urine. He says, "This is potentially serious" with a concerned look on his face. I said, "Oh, I'm taking it seriously ...I'm just not upset about it."

 

[oilyriser]

Melatonin causes a sustained reduction of blood pressure. You can get that by getting regular sleep in a totally dark room.

Much also depends on stress, lifestyle, mind, and diet, it's amazing. Drugs usually work when the above doesn't.

 

[MarkC]

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Flax seed oil is the cure to everything.
Drink it like beer.

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Flaxseed oil = linseed oil.