sometime the oil u brought in, will end up at mechanic car trunk, and oil that go into your engine is dealer bulk oil lol.
How do I know what oil the dealer puts in my car?
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Originally Posted By: j_mac
The only thing I'm worried about is the nonsense about the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In maybe being void. Anyone know how and who to contact at Hyundai about that?
I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. This is from Hyundai's website:
"The higher of either the guaranteed value or the current market value can be applied to the purchase of a new Hyundai. The guaranteed value must be applied towards the purchase of a new Hyundai financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF) and only when a customer shows proof of all required vehicle maintenance at authorized Hyundai dealerships."
So, it would appear that in order to qualify for this, you do indeed need to have it serviced at the dealer. My limited understanding of the MM Act is that it applies to warranties, and as defined by the act, a "buy back" or "trade-in" incentive would be excluded from the act.
All that said, in looking at the guaranteed trade in values and the exclusions/limitations involved, I probably wouldn't worry about it unless you're really sure you're flipping the car for another Hyundai in 2-3 years. They're still factoring in some pretty large depreciation, IMO.
And, if you're trading the car in 2-3 years from now, it really doesn't matter what they're putting in for oil, as long as put enough in there...
The only thing I'm worried about is the nonsense about the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In maybe being void. Anyone know how and who to contact at Hyundai about that?
I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. This is from Hyundai's website:
"The higher of either the guaranteed value or the current market value can be applied to the purchase of a new Hyundai. The guaranteed value must be applied towards the purchase of a new Hyundai financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF) and only when a customer shows proof of all required vehicle maintenance at authorized Hyundai dealerships."
So, it would appear that in order to qualify for this, you do indeed need to have it serviced at the dealer. My limited understanding of the MM Act is that it applies to warranties, and as defined by the act, a "buy back" or "trade-in" incentive would be excluded from the act.
All that said, in looking at the guaranteed trade in values and the exclusions/limitations involved, I probably wouldn't worry about it unless you're really sure you're flipping the car for another Hyundai in 2-3 years. They're still factoring in some pretty large depreciation, IMO.
And, if you're trading the car in 2-3 years from now, it really doesn't matter what they're putting in for oil, as long as put enough in there...
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Originally Posted By: j_mac
The only thing I'm worried about is the nonsense about the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In maybe being void. Anyone know how and who to contact at Hyundai about that?
I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. This is from Hyundai's website:
"The higher of either the guaranteed value or the current market value can be applied to the purchase of a new Hyundai. The guaranteed value must be applied towards the purchase of a new Hyundai financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF) and only when a customer shows proof of all required vehicle maintenance at authorized Hyundai dealerships."
So, it would appear that in order to qualify for this, you do indeed need to have it serviced at the dealer. My limited understanding of the MM Act is that it applies to warranties, and as defined by the act, a "buy back" or "trade-in" incentive would be excluded from the act.
All that said, in looking at the guaranteed trade in values and the exclusions/limitations involved, I probably wouldn't worry about it unless you're really sure you're flipping the car for another Hyundai in 2-3 years. They're still factoring in some pretty large depreciation, IMO.
And, if you're trading the car in 2-3 years from now, it really doesn't matter what they're putting in for oil, as long as put enough in there...
I figured there were some catches to the deal, at a quick glance it sounds like selling ice in the winter. They aren't giving you much of anything with the guaranteed trade value deal. OP change your own oil, if you plan on selling the car 2-3 years from now you'll get more selling it on your own. Just keep good records they can't void your warranty. They just came up with a great way to get more cars in for service, and hopefully get people to buy Hyundai again when it comes time for another car. JMO
Originally Posted By: j_mac
The only thing I'm worried about is the nonsense about the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In maybe being void. Anyone know how and who to contact at Hyundai about that?
I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. This is from Hyundai's website:
"The higher of either the guaranteed value or the current market value can be applied to the purchase of a new Hyundai. The guaranteed value must be applied towards the purchase of a new Hyundai financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF) and only when a customer shows proof of all required vehicle maintenance at authorized Hyundai dealerships."
So, it would appear that in order to qualify for this, you do indeed need to have it serviced at the dealer. My limited understanding of the MM Act is that it applies to warranties, and as defined by the act, a "buy back" or "trade-in" incentive would be excluded from the act.
All that said, in looking at the guaranteed trade in values and the exclusions/limitations involved, I probably wouldn't worry about it unless you're really sure you're flipping the car for another Hyundai in 2-3 years. They're still factoring in some pretty large depreciation, IMO.
And, if you're trading the car in 2-3 years from now, it really doesn't matter what they're putting in for oil, as long as put enough in there...
I figured there were some catches to the deal, at a quick glance it sounds like selling ice in the winter. They aren't giving you much of anything with the guaranteed trade value deal. OP change your own oil, if you plan on selling the car 2-3 years from now you'll get more selling it on your own. Just keep good records they can't void your warranty. They just came up with a great way to get more cars in for service, and hopefully get people to buy Hyundai again when it comes time for another car. JMO
Just ask the guys in the back who they buy their bulk oil from. If you dont believe them call the distributor and check.
^^^ What he said. It never hurts to just ask the service advisor what kind of oil they use. And if you don't like your current dealer, try another Hyundai dealer.
My Hyundai Dealer uses QS but that will vary by dealer. As long as its a name brand oil I wouldnt worry about it. I seriously doubt anything other than SN/GF5 is left in the bulk supply chain at the majors.
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Originally Posted By: chet2
we all like QS here and you should be happy if stealership puts it in but if not DIY w/ a synthetic for a paltry 10$ more...i am running napa synthetic in ford focus that was on sale for 3.29 a qt plus 3$ for oil filter
I was at my NAPA this morning and was asking about the NAPA oil. The fella said that Valvoline makes the NAPA oil.
I was interested in a cheap oil to do a 1000 mile flush with MMO. I didn't get the price of it though, I was kind of in a rush.
we all like QS here and you should be happy if stealership puts it in but if not DIY w/ a synthetic for a paltry 10$ more...i am running napa synthetic in ford focus that was on sale for 3.29 a qt plus 3$ for oil filter
I was at my NAPA this morning and was asking about the NAPA oil. The fella said that Valvoline makes the NAPA oil.
I was interested in a cheap oil to do a 1000 mile flush with MMO. I didn't get the price of it though, I was kind of in a rush.
Originally Posted By: river_rat
The bunch at the local Toyota dealer once told me I should use the OEM filters because they had a valve in them the helped keep oil from draining back out of the filter when the engine was shut off.
I said "Really, why don't all filters use those?"
That's hilarious. Toyota service advisors trying to fool one of our more knowledgeable oil filter guys. Similarly, my Honda dealer won't install any aftermarket oil filter without an ADBV, but doesn't seem to care that the dome points down, or the loose Honda filter media on both A1 and A2 filters. Go figure.
The bunch at the local Toyota dealer once told me I should use the OEM filters because they had a valve in them the helped keep oil from draining back out of the filter when the engine was shut off.
I said "Really, why don't all filters use those?"
That's hilarious. Toyota service advisors trying to fool one of our more knowledgeable oil filter guys. Similarly, my Honda dealer won't install any aftermarket oil filter without an ADBV, but doesn't seem to care that the dome points down, or the loose Honda filter media on both A1 and A2 filters. Go figure.
change it yourself and keep the receipts the stealerships are all a little shady...What hyundai did you get?
Hyundai looks to get out of paying warranty service more than any of them in my opinion so be careful and remember lemon law is your friend just in case
Hyundai looks to get out of paying warranty service more than any of them in my opinion so be careful and remember lemon law is your friend just in case
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change it yourself and keep the receipts the stealerships are all a little shady...What hyundai did you get?
Hyundai looks to get out of paying warranty service more than any of them in my opinion so be careful and remember lemon law is your friend just in case
We have had absolutely no problem with ours. Although our claims were minor.
Bad battery when the car was 6 months old.
2 years later my visiting sister broke the interior light switch (I think she was trying to force it the wrong way).
18 months after that the hydraulic hatch strut let go in 98F heat. Hyundai simply replaced the Battery and made an appointment for the other two when parts came in (first strut they had seen fail). We were at the dealer less than 20 minutes each time for the repairs.
Thats 3 problems in only 4 years but Hyundai didnt make the Battery, the Strut or break the light switch (As I said Im somewhat doubtful that was a faulty part).
Im not real upset at Hyundai for not wanting to replace 60,000 mile engines that are still on factory fill and original filter.
In my opinion Chrysler, GM and Ford in that order are even worse about not wanting to pay for engines that go under warranty.
Bottom line, document everything just in case. Always CYA!
change it yourself and keep the receipts the stealerships are all a little shady...What hyundai did you get?
Hyundai looks to get out of paying warranty service more than any of them in my opinion so be careful and remember lemon law is your friend just in case
We have had absolutely no problem with ours. Although our claims were minor.
Bad battery when the car was 6 months old.
2 years later my visiting sister broke the interior light switch (I think she was trying to force it the wrong way).
18 months after that the hydraulic hatch strut let go in 98F heat. Hyundai simply replaced the Battery and made an appointment for the other two when parts came in (first strut they had seen fail). We were at the dealer less than 20 minutes each time for the repairs.
Thats 3 problems in only 4 years but Hyundai didnt make the Battery, the Strut or break the light switch (As I said Im somewhat doubtful that was a faulty part).
Im not real upset at Hyundai for not wanting to replace 60,000 mile engines that are still on factory fill and original filter.
In my opinion Chrysler, GM and Ford in that order are even worse about not wanting to pay for engines that go under warranty.
Bottom line, document everything just in case. Always CYA!
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im in the auto business and i guess i hear all the horror stories but i have seen a couple of things they tried to get out of one time one of the guys at the shop across the street was an expert witness at a trial...Hyundai lost big on that one...I will tell you if they dont pay and you have a case you usually get compensated pretty well when they lose
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Doesn't Hyundai have 5 year/100,000 mile drivetrain warranties? If you want to participate in their trade in program, I would just have them do the oil changes. I don't think that whatever oil they are using is going to ruin your engine or not let the engine live up until you trade it in or sell it.
They are not going to use an oil that is going to cause engine issues and if they do, they will be on the hook for the repairs. I wouldn't worry about it.
Wayne
They are not going to use an oil that is going to cause engine issues and if they do, they will be on the hook for the repairs. I wouldn't worry about it.
Wayne
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