House passes bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent

[SC Maintenance]

I get it but I don't. Does she struggle with travel when you switch time zones? Like jet lag? 1 hour is very minor for that. Sure, when I went to Oz I was a mess for a week like a really bad/long hangover.

She doesn't travel for work - she is a classroom teacher. When we go on vacation no one keeps track.

Like I said, its not a few. Heart attacks/ strokes / car accidents. All spikes on spring ahead. doctors have correlated with disrupting the circadian rhythm - your sleep cycles. Ask an elementary teacher how it goes right after the spring change.

Only a small percentage of people travel regularly. I suspect that people that don't do well with this don't take travelling jobs.

It makes no sense to me to change back and forth. If you don't like whatever work out changing your schedule with your boss or change jobs. The whole thing was contrived during WW1 and it is just monumentally stupid to change clocks for no apparent reason.

 

[TiGeo]

She doesn't travel for work - she is a classroom teacher. When we go on vacation no one keeps track.

Like I said, its not a few. Heart attacks/ strokes / car accidents. All spikes on spring ahead. doctors have correlated with disrupting the circadian rhythm - your sleep cycles. Ask an elementary teacher how it goes right after the spring change.

Only a small percentage of people travel regularly. I suspect that people that don't do well with this don't take travelling jobs.

It makes no sense to me to change back and forth. If you don't like whatever work out changing your schedule with your boss or change jobs. The whole thing was contrived during WW1 and it is just monumentally stupid to change clocks for no apparent reason.

There is a reason....it really sucks to have it not get light until 9am in the winter....but sure, I can deal with it no issue like I deal with travelling and having time issues due to it, just part of life. My wife is a school teacher...I know all about it.

I can say the same for those that don't like it...tighten up/work it out with your job to come in late/go home early. It seems about the same argument as those here making it sound like their kids can't walk to the bus stop in the dark or that it is dangerous to do so and the others saying that is silly. I've read up on it now, hard to believe that time change creates this issue...I don't recall anyone telling me to not travel for concerns about this with time zone shifts even though it's not exactly the same...light/dark same time, just an hour difference in your head basically. I don't think I know anyone that complains about this except here or social media.

 

[TiGeo]

She doesn't travel for work - she is a classroom teacher. When we go on vacation no one keeps track.

Like I said, its not a few. Heart attacks/ strokes / car accidents. All spikes on spring ahead. doctors have correlated with disrupting the circadian rhythm - your sleep cycles. Ask an elementary teacher how it goes right after the spring change.

Only a small percentage of people travel regularly. I suspect that people that don't do well with this don't take travelling jobs.

It makes no sense to me to change back and forth. If you don't like whatever work out changing your schedule with your boss or change jobs. The whole thing was contrived during WW1 and it is just monumentally stupid to change clocks for no apparent reason.

For those that want stable time year around - which to choose? Full time DSL or standard? I'd go standard personally if I had to choose. The late morning light in the winter thing seems the worse of the two options. Dark at 8 vs. 9 in summer isn't too bad.

 

[SC Maintenance]

There is a reason....it really sucks to have it not get light until 9am in the winter

So your telling everyone to suck it up buttercup, I don't like it like getting up in the dark. So your complaint is again about your personal preference. Except the other side of the argument has well documented scientific proof.

Personally I just think its stupid to change time - full stop. I don't care which time they pick. Defeats the entire purpose of a standard. Just go UST for all I care. I am willing to go along with something different if it helps a large number of people.

Either way it certainly should not be the Purview of the US federal government.

 

[TiGeo]

So your telling everyone to suck it up buttercup, I don't like it like getting up in the dark. So your complaint is again about your personal preference. Except the other side of the argument has well documented scientific proof.

Personally I just think its stupid to change time - full stop. I don't care which time they pick. Defeats the entire purpose of a standard. Just go UST for all I care. I am willing to go along with something different if it helps a large number of people.

Either way it certainly should not be the Purview of the US federal government.

I'm doing the same thing you and others here are - telling eveyone that has a different opinion that we should go with whatever the other options is. Someone here says their kids don't like going to the bus stop in the dark - others here say suck it up/no issues. Let's just do a state by state poll and go with what everyone wants - fine by me. Zulu time!!! I've said it already, it doesn't really make a difference to me b/c I don't see the huge impact and the folks in my family don't struggle with this. I do think if we did the DSL year around like some want you'd then hear a lot of fussing from some of those same folks about those dark winter mornings and folks would wish we kept DSL/standard switching or did standard as the standard.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I'm doing the same thing you and others here are - telling eveyone that has a different opinion that we should go with whatever the other options is. Someone here says their kids don't like going to the bus stop in the dark - others here say suck it up/no issues. Let's just do a state by state poll and go with what everyone wants - fine by me. Zulu time!!! I've said it already, it doesn't really make a difference to me b/c I don't see the huge impact. I do think if we did the DSL year around like some want you'd then hear a lot of fussing from some of those same folks about those dark winter mornings and folks would wish we kept DSL/standard switching or did standard as the standard.

Well there all incorrect as well.

If you actually read the health studies its most specifically the spring ahead that causes the most mayhem.

The fall back has issues to but there less severe - along the lines of lower productivity at work but no one dies sort of thing.

Like I said, the studies seem to indicate that the change is the problem. The rest of you can decide which one we pick, just pick One already.

 

[fdcg27]

For those that want stable time year around - which to choose? Full time DSL or standard? I'd go standard personally if I had to choose. The late morning light in the winter thing seems the worse of the two options. Dark at 8 vs. 9 in summer isn't too bad.

I agree with you. We are far west in the Eastern Time Zone, so we'd prefer permanent EST versus permanent EDT.
Even on EST it stays dark pretty late in the late fall and early winter.

 

[TiGeo]

Well there all incorrect as well.

If you actually read the health studies its most specifically the spring ahead that causes the most mayhem.

The fall back has issues to but there less severe - along the lines of lower productivity at work but no one dies sort of thing.

Like I said, the studies seem to indicate that the change is the problem. The rest of you can decide which one we pick, just pick One already.

I just had a chat regarding the discussion here with my wife who is a third grade teacher as you mentioned that your wife is one. She said it hasn't been an issue that she has noticed in class with the time changes. Her biggest concern is the longer dark mornings by doing year around DST vs. standard. Just a meaningless data point in the discussion.

 

[BobsArmory]

China only observes 1 time zone but they should have 5. I wonder how they survive.

 

[TiGeo]

I agree with you. We are far west in the Eastern Time Zone, so we'd prefer permanent EST versus permanent EDT.
Even on EST it stays dark pretty late in the late fall and early winter.

I've spent time in those areas and it's interesting how long it stays light..DST isn't really needed. Then there was AK...and that's light until midnight where I go.

This was around 11pm in Anchorage AK in June...the camp I go to/work in is about halfway between Anchorage and Juneau on the coast so eastern AK.

 

[TiGeo]

China only observes 1 time zone but they should have 5. I wonder how they survive.

They survive b/c if they complain they get shot.

 

[fdcg27]

They survive b/c if they complain they get shot.

Would be a waste when you can just send them to the forced labor camps China denies having.

 

[philipp10]

I remember when it was tried in1974 and quickly abandoned. Kids were standing on the side of the road in the freezing cold and dark and school buses were running the complete morning route in the dark.

Well a pretty simple fix is for LOCAL school districts to adjust the start times.....

 

[Mechanician]

But that's it...it's not just "b/c we've always done it" and how disruptive is this really? One freakin' hour to have a more reasonable window of daylight throughout the year and people lose their minds.

If it isn't just "because we've always done it" - what problem is it solving? Why are we still doing it?
It's original intention of saving energy does not apply any longer.
Your opinion of a more reasonable window of daylight is your opinion.

 

[PandaBear]

What are you, "saving"?

In theory, electricity for lighting in the past. Today, you are actually using more electricity for AC.

I personally like DST, but I don't know why we need Federal gov to get involved in this.

 

[gman2304]

China only observes 1 time zone but they should have 5. I wonder how they survive.

Russia has 11 time zones. France has 12 to 14 time zones, depending on the season.

 

[nomas]

For God's sake . It's just ONE HOUR ...

 

[AutoMechanic]

I’m personally against it. I’m ok with time change. I just don’t get it or get why it would even be brought up.

 

[PandaBear]

I've spent time in those areas and it's interesting how long it stays light..DST isn't really needed. Then there was AK...and that's light until midnight where I go.

This was around 11pm in Anchorage AK in June...the camp I go to/work in is about halfway between Anchorage and Juneau on the coast so eastern AK.

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I personally think darkness at 1am-2am vs 2am-3am no longer matters.

 

[dogememe]

Most households don't have children...

I mean yes I see some schoolbuses given that we live right across the street from where they enter the school but based on the number of cars dropping off kids and picking them up I feel like it doesn't really matter.