House passes bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent

[Allaned]

why not just change it a one half hour year round?

I suggested the same and I think that makes the most sense. Probably never happen.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Then the schools schedules and bus runs should be adjusted so that the morning routes can be run after sunrise.

At least around here, school districts don't have enough buses and bus drivers to execute on this. The same busses deliver Elementary, Middle, and Highschool kids, so the district has to stagger bus pickups (and school start times) into three shifts. Highschool kids are usually the first batch to get bussed since their schedule is usually busiest with extra curricular activities later on. Then it's Middle schoolers, and then it's Elementary/Kindergarten.

So, if our sunrise is at 9 am, and highschoolers get picked up first, that means elementary school kids wouldn't be picked up until sometime around 10:30 or 11, and wouldn't start classes until 11:30 or so. Working parents would have a huge problem with this.

 

[SShooterZ]

I'm glad they're focused on the really important stuff like daylight savings time.

 

[supton]

At least around here, school districts don't have enough buses and bus drivers to execute on this. The same busses deliver Elementary, Middle, and Highschool kids, so the district has to stagger bus pickups (and school start times) into three shifts. Highschool kids are usually the first batch to get bussed since their schedule is usually busiest with extra curricular activities later on. Then it's Middle schoolers, and then it's Elementary/Kindergarten.

So, if our sunrise is at 9 am, and highschoolers get picked up first, that means elementary school kids wouldn't be picked up until sometime around 10:30 or 11, and wouldn't start classes until 11:30 or so. Working parents would have a huge problem with this.

Ours is like that too, our schools are a bit scattered. Multiple elementary, now one middle and it's been one high school for a while. At least middle and high are only 2-3 miles apart--but the various elementaries are upwards of 20. Can make for long routes, and those routes do change year to year it seems. [Or it did, mine are finally done! no more of this nonsense for us! ]

 

[Recon 1]

Lets hope so! Tired of the sun setting at 4:00pm in the winter.

 

[fdcg27]

I like how the focus is on these crucial issues.

As though the House has nothing more pressing to attend to, right?

 

[Leo99]

I've only been retired for a few days, but days of the week and time of day have a lot less meaning than they used to.

 

[danstraylee]

Then the schools schedules and bus runs should be adjusted so that the morning routes can be run after sunrise.

There is no possible scientific way to do that. Families that live in the northern hemisphere have darkness near 24 hrs part of the year. Clock settings cannot change that.

 

[SeaJay]

I remember when it was tried in1974 and quickly abandoned. Kids were standing on the side of the road in the freezing cold and dark and school buses were running the complete morning route in the dbark.

The reason it was tried in 1974 was because of the Arab oil embargo that basically doubled the retail cost of fuel oil and gasoline overnight. Blue collar families like mine living paycheck to paycheck were in trouble. The intent was to reduce the demand somehow or another hopefully slowing down the sudden price increases, doubtful if it had the intended impact. A you point out it was problematic for the school bus kids.

 

[PandaBear]

The fact that we lose our collective minds now with a one hour clock change twice a year is laughable to me.

I can see a problem before smart phone era when everyone may miss a Sunday morning appointment but today we are almost all on smart phone and things do get updated automatically.

Is it really a problem anymore?

The reason it was tried in 1974 was because of the Arab oil embargo that basically doubled the retail cost of fuel oil and gasoline overnight. Blue collar families like mine living paycheck to paycheck were in trouble.

If it was because of lighting related power use back then I can understand. Today daylight saving time is more likely to increase AC use at home. The plus side though is school and fun activities can go on longer before the sun goes down in the afternoon or early evening. Maybe you can do more construction in the summer to increase productivities, or sports activities, anything but saving electricity for lighting.

 

[PandaBear]

I would consider a 30 minute change as a compromise and make that the new standard time. Then the schools schedules and bus runs should be adjusted so that the morning routes can be run after sunrise.

It is a mess dealing with metric vs English already. Have you ever work with India time? They are 1/2 hour apart from the rest of the world and people often miscalculate meetings and miss them because of that, and that's not just 2 Sunday a year either.

There is a reason timezone other than India are typically 1 hr apart.

 

[PandaBear]

I sure hope it doesn’t. People in the southern tier of the US states have no idea why we have daylight savings time. But up in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont, it’s dark a lot more of the year than it is down south.

Making daylight savings time permanent would mean my kids are going to school in the dark and they wouldn’t even finish their first period before sunrise, in December, up in Vermont. That is why we “fall back” and go to standard time for winter.

If people don’t like the switch, then just leave leave it on standard. Don’t go to daylight saving savings.

I agree. US is already not in one unified timezone so why do we have to have a unified daylight saving policy or not? It makes no sense to me. We should just let each state run its own thing based on its own location.

If it is so important why don't we behave like China and have the entire country (including Hawaii) in ONE time zone!!!

 

[Pew]

At least around here, school districts don't have enough buses and bus drivers to execute on this. The same busses deliver Elementary, Middle, and Highschool kids, so the district has to stagger bus pickups (and school start times) into three shifts. Highschool kids are usually the first batch to get bussed since their schedule is usually busiest with extra curricular activities later on. Then it's Middle schoolers, and then it's Elementary/Kindergarten.

So, if our sunrise is at 9 am, and highschoolers get picked up first, that means elementary school kids wouldn't be picked up until sometime around 10:30 or 11, and wouldn't start classes until 11:30 or so. Working parents would have a huge problem with this.

That's how my area does it as well, the same bus company servicing all the local schools, so HS starts at 7 (or 530/6am if you have school sports or special classes), middle/junior starts at 8, and elementary at 9.

 

[tmorris1]

I remember when it was tried in1974 and quickly abandoned. Kids were standing on the side of the road in the freezing cold and dark and school buses were running the complete morning route in the dark.

It's freezing cold even when the sun is up here in the winter.

 

[mr_boring]

Who’s insuring that? State Farm? Progressive? Erie?

Sun Life, duh

 

[SwampSurvivor]

I hate when it gets dark here at 4pm