House passes bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent

[PF52]

Fact is sunrise and sunset times are going to change throughout the year regardless of what the clock says.

Clock times remaining the same throughout the year will be merely a convenience and nothing else.

I agree 100%. The difference in sunrise/sunset times in June vs. December is significant. Where we place the clock is going to be a compromise no matter where we put it. People are going to complain.

The system we have right now is fine with me. It takes me about two minutes to change my clocks and it only happens twice a year.

 

[fdcg27]

In northern states, especially farther east in their time zone, kids will be waiting for buses in pitch darkness. Then the bus will kill a few kids, and then everyone will lose their minds over this.
Complaining about this is a sign of how society is just bored with itself.

I think you mean farther west in each time zone.
I agree that DST makes no sense over the winter and changing time twice a year doesn't make any sense either.
Why not just revert to ST and leave it there?

 

[jadmt]

wait look over there.....a big nothing burger...

 

[zzyzzx]

I remember when it was tried in1974 and quickly abandoned. Kids were standing on the side of the road in the freezing cold and dark and school buses were running the complete morning route in the dark.

Most households don't have children...

 

[Allaned]

I think you mean farther west in each time zone.
I agree that DST makes no sense over the winter and changing time twice a year doesn't make any sense either.
Why not just revert to ST and leave it there?

I would consider a 30 minute change as a compromise and make that the new standard time. Then the schools schedules and bus runs should be adjusted so that the morning routes can be run after sunrise.

 

[Allaned]

Most households don't have children...

But a lot of them do have children. Maybe some people were born all grown up?

 

[Quattro Pete]

I like how the focus is on these crucial issues.

Yup. Just another distraction.

Besides, been there done that...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ake-daylight-saving-time-permanent-180979742/

On Jan. 6, 1974, the US switched to "permanent" DST. By October 1974 congress repealed the switch and returned to the annual toggle between Standard and DST because most folks hated long dark winter mornings.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I'm going to be really snotty here with this take...

I've been doing rotating shift work for 25 years. The fact that we lose our collective minds now with a one hour clock change twice a year is laughable to me.

If this goes through, I give it 3 years at most before it gets changed back and we realize why we have been doing it in the first place.

I get up at all different kinds of time based on customer schedule. I might be leaving at 3:00AM or 9:00AM - depends on the day, done it 30 years, doesn't bother me one iota.

My wife on the other hand is messed up for weeks either side of the DST switch over.

Everyone is different. We would be better off to just pick a time. I don't care which.

 

[k1xv]

In amateur radio, everyone, world wide, operates on Universal time, which is also known as Greenwich Mean Time. People and organizations may change their schedules to fit local seasons, but nobody changes clocks.

 

[hemioiler]

People are going to complain either way.

I personally like DST, and find the "arguments" against it hilarious. "More heart attacks, forklift accidents" yada yada. As if gettting up an hour earlier in the spring causes all that, but nobody bats an eye when they get up early to make a business/vacation flight, stay up 2 or 3 hours later on NYE, pig out on Thanksgiving Day/Christmas etc etc.

If getting up an hour early causes you to have a heart attack, you already had 1 foot in the grave and it was going to happen that month regardless.

 

[buster]

Makes no difference to me one way or the other. I was never one to get rattled by losing an hour.

 

[buster]

Just saw this old post from @MolaKule from back in the day.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/daylight-savings-time.31503/

 

[SevenBizzos]

Living on the east edge of a time zone, I'll always want Daylight time. A full time Standard time gets me 3:30am sunlight in June and 4:00pm sunsets in December. I understand those that live 50 miles east of me have a different experience.
The school argument is weird. The recent narrative has been to push the start times back because kids weren't getting sleep. Bus ridership fell by a huge amount after we closed the schools for a year as well. A lot more parents are doing the shuttle now. But this is a Board and union decision that just isn't going to change.
We've also somehow made some scare narratives that people die when time changes by an hour. We're not that fragile as a species...

 

[facility1]

why not just change it a one half hour year round?

 

[Patman]

Only once a year do I get to sleep an extra hour, and now they’re talking about taking it away from me.

Be happy with the fact that once a year they used to also take away an hour of your sleep so now you will be getting that back

 

[Astro14]

I sure hope this passes!

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/14/politics/house-vote-daylight-savings-time

I sure hope it doesn’t. People in the southern tier of the US states have no idea why we have daylight savings time. But up in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont, it’s dark a lot more of the year than it is down south.

Making daylight savings time permanent would mean my kids are going to school in the dark and they wouldn’t even finish their first period before sunrise, in December, up in Vermont. That is why we “fall back” and go to standard time for winter.

If people don’t like the switch, then just leave leave it on standard. Don’t go to daylight saving savings.

 

[Pablo]

One of senators is taking credit. Must be a done deal

 

[4wd]

308-117

 

[pbm]

School starts too early. I think my HS homeroom time was 7:25 AM. Ridiculous.

Totally agree....especially for the lower grades. If anything they could stay later to make up the difference.
They passed 'all day' Kindergarten in NY (at least in my area) a few years ago but I think it was driven more by mothers now being able to work rather than being home for 'little Johnny'. A 5 or 6 year old doesn't have the attention span (or energy) for 'all day' classes IMO.

 

[supton]

I'm in the camp of pick a time and quit changing it. While I'm affected by the short winter days, any impact of moving daylight around is lost on me if I have to drive to work in the dark and drive home in the dark, and can't get outside regardless because it's too darn cold. Schools can shift their day around (no small act since that can involve many pieces of a big puzzle but I don't see why not).

But I've also managed to get this far in life regardless, so clearly it hasn't killed me... just another annoyance.