2015 Pilot. Bought last March, and now getting to experience it when it gets cold. When I start it, like when it was -4F at work today, it immediately goes to 2000 RPM. I'm more accustomed to cars that start slow and gradually ramp up. Anyone know if it's normal for a J35 Honda? It's got 0W-20 in it, but should I be concerned?
Honda Pilot fast cold idle
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I wouldn't worry about it, All the J motors are rock solid. They would not have evolved if they were no good, J30, J32 a1, J32 a2, J35 a12345678....J37
If it's like a 2015 Outback I had, in cold weather it kicks back down with a tap of the throttle.
Gotta get that cat to light off ASAP!
My Fords are the worst on cold mornings. My Focus would run at 3000 RPM, period. Didn't matter if I was driving or not, that engine was going to run at 3000 RPM until the cat lit off. It was bordering on dangerous to drive on cold mornings. And trying to shift a very cold manual transmission when the engine was running at 3000 was nearly impossible. My F-350 isn't as bad but it'll still idle at 2000-2500 until it gets itself warmed up a bit.
My Fords are the worst on cold mornings. My Focus would run at 3000 RPM, period. Didn't matter if I was driving or not, that engine was going to run at 3000 RPM until the cat lit off. It was bordering on dangerous to drive on cold mornings. And trying to shift a very cold manual transmission when the engine was running at 3000 was nearly impossible. My F-350 isn't as bad but it'll still idle at 2000-2500 until it gets itself warmed up a bit.
I'm surprised they haven't put glow plugs in the cats to warm them faster to help lower the need for idling high for so long to get the cat where it needs to be.
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It's normal, isn't it ? I can't say I've had a car that didn't start at it's fast idle speed almost instantly. No slow start and ramp up either.... Now, many of them will stay at high idle speed no matter what and gradually decrease as they see fit but my '08 G35 will drop the idle speed - whether it's ready and warmed up or not - at the slightest movement of the gear selector so that it doesn't jolt when putting it in reverse or drive.
Originally Posted by Miller88
Gotta get that cat to light off ASAP!
My Fords are the worst on cold mornings. My Focus would run at 3000 RPM, period. Didn't matter if I was driving or not, that engine was going to run at 3000 RPM until the cat lit off. It was bordering on dangerous to drive on cold mornings. And trying to shift a very cold manual transmission when the engine was running at 3000 was nearly impossible. My F-350 isn't as bad but it'll still idle at 2000-2500 until it gets itself warmed up a bit.
I'm on my second Focus now and no such high cold start RPMs. I'm pretty sure it was your posts complaining that your focus had some stuff wrong which you refused to address because it was under warranty and the dealer said it's normal. Slow warm up was another if memory serves me right.
My Mazda 3, which shares the same engine as Focus, also never reved that high on cold starts.
Gotta get that cat to light off ASAP!
My Fords are the worst on cold mornings. My Focus would run at 3000 RPM, period. Didn't matter if I was driving or not, that engine was going to run at 3000 RPM until the cat lit off. It was bordering on dangerous to drive on cold mornings. And trying to shift a very cold manual transmission when the engine was running at 3000 was nearly impossible. My F-350 isn't as bad but it'll still idle at 2000-2500 until it gets itself warmed up a bit.
I'm on my second Focus now and no such high cold start RPMs. I'm pretty sure it was your posts complaining that your focus had some stuff wrong which you refused to address because it was under warranty and the dealer said it's normal. Slow warm up was another if memory serves me right.
My Mazda 3, which shares the same engine as Focus, also never reved that high on cold starts.
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My Toyota does 1800rpms in insulated garage.
European gassers I had/have are always around 1,200 if it is below 0f and they were outside.
European gassers I had/have are always around 1,200 if it is below 0f and they were outside.
Brothers 2016 Pilot just blew his engine. Piston 6. We in Western Wisconsin where it was -60. Pilot getting new engine as still under warranty. We can't believe it.
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Originally Posted by skip029
Brothers 2016 Pilot just blew his engine. Piston 6. We in Western Wisconsin where it was -60. Pilot getting new engine as still under warranty. We can't believe it.
That is not temperature related, it is something with engine.
Brothers 2016 Pilot just blew his engine. Piston 6. We in Western Wisconsin where it was -60. Pilot getting new engine as still under warranty. We can't believe it.
That is not temperature related, it is something with engine.
Sorry guys, spoke with my brother again and I misunderstood him. I was telling him how my 08 Jeep Patriot was dead due to the cold and he told me his Pilot was in the shop for the piston and I assumed he was blaming the cold as well but this is what he said below. Here is a link to the warning lights he was getting:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ub5Omf8UfiTRad3sSpREcp6tzt3Px-8r/view?usp=drivesdk
Brother said:
Not weather related. Same sh*t happened middle of summer. I read in forums when other people car did that, they just turned it off and then later lights went away. Havent been lights since until last weekend. Car was less than 3 years old at that time. Honda better hope it is a one time thing. Otherwise, soon they gonna be telling people recalls to swap out bad engine bc of piston issues.
Imagine the cost of some [censored] like that has this happened to others too? We were in cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul) so didn't drive it home with the kids in case it died. Can still drive but not good idea apparently bc when piston issue that means metal shavings can get into the system.
Not good for the rest of the car. If it happened to our car, most likely will be issues with other honda pilots or honda engines in next few yrs prob more people be reporting it. Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something. I think Honda people are like Packer fans, they stay TOO LOYAL to their team even when they're wrong. So when something breaks in a Honda, they'll never talk about it just like how the Packers can never do wrong even though they cut Jordy Nelson and sign old TE Jimmy Graham for 3 times the money. Companies don't know how to make their product better if people don't let them know what's wrong with car.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ub5Omf8UfiTRad3sSpREcp6tzt3Px-8r/view?usp=drivesdk
Brother said:
Not weather related. Same sh*t happened middle of summer. I read in forums when other people car did that, they just turned it off and then later lights went away. Havent been lights since until last weekend. Car was less than 3 years old at that time. Honda better hope it is a one time thing. Otherwise, soon they gonna be telling people recalls to swap out bad engine bc of piston issues.
Imagine the cost of some [censored] like that has this happened to others too? We were in cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul) so didn't drive it home with the kids in case it died. Can still drive but not good idea apparently bc when piston issue that means metal shavings can get into the system.
Not good for the rest of the car. If it happened to our car, most likely will be issues with other honda pilots or honda engines in next few yrs prob more people be reporting it. Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something. I think Honda people are like Packer fans, they stay TOO LOYAL to their team even when they're wrong. So when something breaks in a Honda, they'll never talk about it just like how the Packers can never do wrong even though they cut Jordy Nelson and sign old TE Jimmy Graham for 3 times the money. Companies don't know how to make their product better if people don't let them know what's wrong with car.
Originally Posted by skip029
Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something
Huh? I can't make sense of that. How can they tell you they saw metal shavings if they noticed nothing?
Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something
Huh? I can't make sense of that. How can they tell you they saw metal shavings if they noticed nothing?
Originally Posted by HangFire
Originally Posted by skip029
Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something
Huh? I can't make sense of that. How can they tell you they saw metal shavings if they noticed nothing?
Exactly what my brother is saying.
Originally Posted by skip029
Funny thing is, i got oil change just in the fall. The dealer didn't notice sh*t in the oil when drained it but honda dealership told me they saw metal shavings in the oil or something
Huh? I can't make sense of that. How can they tell you they saw metal shavings if they noticed nothing?
Exactly what my brother is saying.
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