Honda oil spec in the US vs everywhere else

[FTTSHO]

Half of that is complete nonsense.

Yeah, it's nonsense. Every single engine that uses 0w20 blows up after about 50k miles.



.... I hope no one took this seriously. Thinner oils are better for all engines.

 

[kschachn]

Yeah, it's nonsense. Every single engine that uses 0w20 blows up after about 50k miles.

That’s not the nonsense I was referring to. Try again.

 

[bluecollarlife]

Sheered? How did you measure mechanical shear in the oil?

Sheered? How did you measure mechanical shear in the oil?

You tell me. You have almost 20k posts on here. Obviously you know something that the others don't about my UOA...

 

[PimTac]

Sheered? How did you measure mechanical shear in the oil?

Beet me to it.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

Beet me to it.

Plus - Beets are good for all of us.

 

[Bud]

Let me know how to delete the thread then. I guess there's no point to new threads at all on any message board since everything has been covered at one time or another.

Don't delete it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a topic being repeated over and over as new members show up all the time. The only folks who seem to get hurt feelings are those with a lot of posts. Those who don't like it or approve can ignore it.

 

[Kuato]

Right now there is a battle brewing on a Honda FB page regarding oil viscosity. In the US Honda specifies 0w20 in the owners manual. In the middle east the same engine has a very different recommendation as shown.

My argument is that Honda in the US specifies 0w20 to help CAFE numbers and nothing else. They less concerned about the longevity of the engine as they only need it to last until the end of the 60k warranty and then it isn't there problem.

Some are arguing that the middle east can get away with heavier oil because of the hotter climate. As you can see in the photo 5w30 covers are broad range of temperature.

What are your thoughts on this? Is Honda only concerned about CAFE when the specify a 0w20 here? View attachment 86882

I agree with you that -20(or -16) is for CAFE. Mostly. A large % of vehicles are grocery getters and never run hard so a -20 is sufficient. On the other hand, lots of Honda vehicles have run just fine since the 90s on a 20 grade oil.

Go have a look at the Penrite Australia oil recommendations, where they're more concerned with vehicles lasting; different specifications than US.

 

[bluecollarlife]

Don't delete it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a topic being repeated over and over as new members show up all the time. The only folks who seem to get hurt feelings are those with a lot of posts. Those who don't like it or approve can ignore it.

Im just trying to help the guy hit his 20k milestone... lol

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

Don't delete it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a topic being repeated over and over as new members show up all the time. The only folks who seem to get hurt feelings are those with a lot of posts. Those who don't like it or approve can ignore it.

Its a valid topic to most folks it seems like. If someone been here so long they are seeing so many repeats its harming them in some way.... maybe they need the classic "time out."

 

[bluecollarlife]

I agree with you that -20(or -16) is for CAFE. Mostly. A large % of vehicles are grocery getters and never run hard so a -20 is sufficient. On the other hand, lots of Honda vehicles have run just fine since the 90s on a 20 grade oil.

Go have a look at the Penrite Australia oil recommendations, where they're more concerned with vehicles lasting; different specifications than US.

I wouldn't say I run mine "hard". Its my A to B work commuter. However I do like to spool the wind machine a bit and run it through the gears from time to time.

 

[bluecollarlife]

Its a valid topic to most folks it seems like. If someone been here so long they are seeing so many repeats its harming them in some way.... maybe they need the classic "time out."

Ive look at a few of his replies on various threads. Arrogant is the vibe I get. Oh well.

 

[Jackson_Slugger]

Are you also going to make sure that you use SM rated oils?

 

[Direct_Rejection]

Right now there is a battle brewing on a Honda FB page regarding oil viscosity. In the US Honda specifies 0w20 in the owners manual. In the middle east the same engine has a very different recommendation as shown.

My argument is that Honda in the US specifies 0w20 to help CAFE numbers and nothing else. They less concerned about the longevity of the engine as they only need it to last until the end of the 60k warranty and then it isn't there problem.

Some are arguing that the middle east can get away with heavier oil because of the hotter climate. As you can see in the photo 5w30 covers are broad range of temperature.

What are your thoughts on this? Is Honda only concerned about CAFE when the specify a 0w20 here? View attachment 86882

Let me welcome you to BITOG, trash.

Rites of initiation...trolls can be a problem...no oil bull around here.

Please tell FB I use state-of-the art 0W8 in a Honda spec'd for 0W20 'round here.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Thinner oils are better for all engines.

There was a member here (can't remember who) many years ago that destroyed a 20W-50 spec 80s or 90s era Jag within a very short time by experimenting with 0W-20.

 

[Ignatius]

Sorry for ruining your forum.

HOW DARE YOU?!? That is my job!!!

If you really want to ruin the forum just make random posts about how great Royal Purple is an people like tyman will hate on all your posts

 

[bluecollarlife]

HOW DARE YOU?!? That is my job!!!

If you really want to ruin the forum just make random posts about how great Royal Purple is an people like tyman will hate on all your posts

But the color is so cool when I pour it!

 

[Ignatius]

There was a member here (can't remember who) many years ago that destroyed a 20W-50 spec 80s or 90s era Jag within a very short time by experimenting with 0W-20.

I know someone who ran 0w20 in a Subaru STi engine and it destroyed their main bearings. They honestly thought it would be okay because of the PAO content of the oil. Now I didn't ask but I have a strange suspicion that they had probably been reading a little too much into what some people say here on ole'BITOG

 

[Pelican]

Right now there is a battle brewing on a Honda FB page regarding oil viscosity. In the US Honda specifies 0w20 in the owners manual. In the middle east the same engine has a very different recommendation as shown.

My argument is that Honda in the US specifies 0w20 to help CAFE numbers and nothing else. They less concerned about the longevity of the engine as they only need it to last until the end of the 60k warranty and then it isn't there problem.

Some are arguing that the middle east can get away with heavier oil because of the hotter climate. As you can see in the photo 5w30 covers are broad range of temperature.

What are your thoughts on this? Is Honda only concerned about CAFE when the specify a 0w20 here? View attachment 86882

Check the OCI you may find that more interesting.

 

[simple_gifts]

Honda doesn't have any real regulations beyond using a certain grade of motor oil,

In fact, they don't even have a single regulation specifying it

 

[oldhp]

Yes 0W20 / 5W20 is for better Corporate Average Fuel Economy. That's why car companies do it in the United States because of emissions. Pure and simple.