Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna New

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I would drive them both and also Pacifica and then make a decision. They are all very close reliability wise, so IMO it comes down to driving dynamics and interior space management. Although they all look similar on the outside, they differ greatly in interior layout, storage and seat arremgements. Check them all out and see what suits you best.
 
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We have an odyssey. My parents had a Previa. I was leaning heavily towards the sienna, until we really started looking into them.

The ergonomics and access to many things are poorer in the sienna. I just had a rental one for work the other day. I'm tall, and the hazard button was out of reach. The radio controls were clunky and a stretch on the far edge of the radio. In typical recent Toyota fashion, the LCDs each have a slightly different font and color blue. The dashboard is like a vertical wall.

I'll say that the sienna has a stronger engine. It just feels like it pulls harder. Maybe because it was a rental and its not how we drive our van, but I'd say it was a different and harder pulling feel.

The sienna doesn't have VCM. That's a boogeyman to some. It's the easiest addition to put the VCMuzzler in when desired and prevent it from happening. The sensor is in direct view under the hood and it's literally a five second mod.

Both have ATs, both will fail and be expensive to repair if not maintained. Some may argue that the toyota's is stronger, but I'm not sure there's objective evidence to prove this.

Some of the infrastructure in the sienna just feels cheap. Example is the structural metal that makes the support for the rear rows. I remember how our Previa had powder coated tubular steel. The sienna looks really small and flimsy. Odyssey looks stronger and more substantial.

The middle jumps eat in the odyssey is more substantial. The sienna one can be folded and stowed in a side cubby in the rear cargo area, it's so small and flimsy. The odyssey one is bigger, not as easily removed on the fly, but is much wider and substantial, something I consider important if I was going to actually have a passenger riding on it.

The sienna feels like a boat. Our old Previa was nimble, it was rwd and nice to drive. The sienna is excessively wide (goes back to the ergonomics thing) and wile it drives fine, just feels clunkier than our odyssey.

The odyssey should be ore efficient, not sure if the 8-sp AT changes that for the sienna. 28+ mpg is very doable on the highway. Vcm makes a much bigger difference in town than the highway.

In the end,me went in looking at the odyssey, sienna and town and country. I initially thought we would lean towards the sienna. In the end we were close between the T&C and Odyssey, but my wife didn't like the overhead plastic console that goes the whole length in the T&C, and we found a great deal on an odyssey, so we went that way. We did a lot of due diligence, test driving, auto show, etc.

My 2c is that they just revised the odyssey, so give it a few months and then get that,,or else try to snag a deal,on a leftover 2016/2017. They should be way down in price since the model has changed.



You not comparing 'apples to apples" with the Previa. I owned two-and the motor which was basically turned on it's side and mounted UNDER the van is what gave it the driving dynamics it had. However-before they put the super charger in them they were extremely under powered.


I wasnt. Perhaps you didnt actually READ my post. Previa was mentioned because my going in desired van was a toyota. I alsomentioned heavy steel seat frames [censored] the chintzy ones on the SIENNA.

Recommend reading thoroughly before comments, as per my post, Ive recently driven sienna and odyssey back to back, each over 100 miles for that matter...
 
My wife and I had this decision in 2012. We chose the FWD Sienna. The AWD Sienna is a very different driving vehicle. The driveshaft to the rear eliminates space for the spare thereby requiring RFT. [You want a full size spare on this vehicle-very important feature] AWDw/RFTs completely eliminates the quick steering, "light-on-its-feet" feel. We were in the middle of the class action settlement with our Accord VCM and didn't want to take a chance on another Honda V6. I will say that Honda has been dedicated to making VCM work and has probably worked the bugs out by now (they promoted it to the Acura line).

The Sienna now has 60,000 miles on it. It is my wife's DD and I drive it on trips. All I can tell you is that it is great on the road. The Toyota V6 w/6 sp AT is a wonderfully matched drivetrain-one of the best AT vehicles I've driven. It is on its second set of tires (Bridgestone Turanzas are a good match) but original brakes and everything else having required nothing but oil and filter changes which I DIY. The Sienna is made in Indiana and the plant in Princeton gives fascinating tours. All-in-all, we are very satisfied with our Sienna. If I were in the market now, I'd have to take a look at the new Chrysler or maybe wait for their hybrid-the one vehicle where hybrid makes sense.
 
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I would not consider the Chrysler. Do your homework, theat company is not making reliable vehicles and the Pacifica is completely new for 2017. I just picked up a 2016 Sienna myself, reliability is the #1 factor. Also note that the 2017 Sienna has an all new drivetrain . . .
 
If you're still looking for a minivan I would suggest looking at the Kia Sedona. We had the 2007 Hyundai Entourage and it was a great vehicle... Built like a tank and a nice ride. Back then it was about $10,000 less than the Odyssey and Sienna.

People kind of laugh at Hyundai/Kia but they have come a long way since they started. The great point about them as well is the 5 year 60000 mile bumper to bumper warranty and their 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty. You can also up the bumper to bumper warranty to 10/100,000 for a added cost. I have owned 3 Hyundais, still have my 2004 Sonata and a 2010 Elantra.

Just thought I put my $0.02 in.
 
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