Honda ATF-Z1

[satterfi]

I’m going with a drain (50%) and refill with Redline D4.

I’m tried of sheepol who reinforce internet rumor without facts or evidence.

I’ll find out for myself.

BTW, at 12k miles for the ’03 Civic, the AFT is looking and smelling a bit used. At 15k miles, I’ll drain the trans and refill with RL.

 

[EJ]

Hi satterfi

Of course you can do whatever you wish..Your choice and yes I can see your point regarding the internet,but I would give the people who post on this board more credit for the wealth of knowledge they have..Otherwise,why would you be here? As far as I'm concerned,in the end,there are only two truths in the universe.."There's a God and I ain't him"

 

[Schmoe]

You know, I was wondering about the torque converter thing. But on my Honda, there doesn't seem to be a way to get to it short of taking the whole thing out. Now I know about why Honda suggest a lather-rinse-repeat 3X cycle. Makes sense but I still feel that changing out the "old" fluid at half the mileage the manual says has just GOT to be better then waiting till 100K and doing the three-peat.
Ray H, got ya bud. Didn't read close enough whereas you did mention it was a 4 cylinder.
I don't know if this has any bearing, but you know how low those Accords are to the ground, I used those metal ramps when I drained mine. I mean, the trans and the frontend still looked level. I wish all transmissions were this simple, I'm not looking forward to when I need to drop my trucks pan, gasket, filter, etc. etc. I wish they were all as simple as the Honda. But I would put money down with all things considered equal, if you drained the trans. fluid, it would take 3 quarts. I was so worried about this that after the fluid drained, I actually measured the old fluid to make sure I had enough fluid. And sure enough, the local Honda parts guy was dead on, 3 quarts to the tee. Next time, I won't even bother checking the dipstick when I dump the fluids again.

 

[S2000driver]

I buy my fluids from hparts.com ATF-Z1 is part number 08200-9001 and costs $2.83 per quart.

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Originally posted by EJ:
Yes,gOing to use the Honda ATF Z-1..My '94' manual says:Honda fluid or an equivalent DEXRON II type..I figures although a little more in cost would use the the Honda ATF

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Go for it. I used ATF-Z1 in a 88 Accord LXi, and the shifts improved dramatically.

[ March 20, 2004, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: S2000driver ]

 

[satterfi]

To answer one of the original questions;

A company called Comptech makes transmission oil coolers for Acura's. They recommend using Redline trans oil.

I've not talked to them but I assume they've tried it.

 

[Tones]

A quick message to [email protected] might be helpful before taking the plunge. I am considering their D4 ATF for my truck and he confirmed that it would be fine. Keep us informed, I for one would be grateful to know how the RedLine performs.

FWIW, Amsoil claims on their website that their Universal ATF is a good replacement for the Honda genuine fluid. They are just very proud ($) of their products.

 

[satterfi]

I've already emailed Dave at Redline.

He didn't know of any reason D4 wouldn't work. But they have not done any field trials of D4 in a Honda so he couldn't be sure.

So I went for it this morning. After a test drive all I can say is "no difference". IMO, the shifting has always been mushy, but then you don't expect a 100hp car to spin the tires at gear changes.


The oil that came out looked a bit brown (12,000 miles). The magnetic drain plug had a load of gunk on it. It looks to be the same size as the engine oil plug so I might buy an extra for that and my Honda bike.

 

[SpitIX]

I buy my fluids from hparts.com ATF-Z1 is part number 08200-9001 and costs $2.83 per quart.


I ordered from Hparts.com for years and they had really great service (a guy named Mike) and very reasonable UPS shipping to PA.
Now, their service sucks (no more phone orders) and their shipping is outrageous ($17.00 on a $47.00 nothing really heavy order). When I called to comment on my disappointment concerning their sales methods and shipping prices, the guy (not Mike) basically said "whatever".
I'm very disappointed. Maybe the dealership changed hands and the new owner is greedy.
Is there another Honda place to order from that doesn't blatently try to screw you?
Thanks.

 

[timmy8151]

Try the following:

Acura Parts 247
Honda Automotive Parts
Acura Carland
AH Motor

 

[glxpassat]

Heat kills transmission fluid so every year at the end of the summer I drain and add 3 quarts in my 99 Odessy. It's not much money and I've considered doing it twice a year but feel that it's probably not needed that often.

 

[S2000driver]

As recently as a month ago I have had good service from hparts.com (bc imports). They shipped me two cases of stuff (including 12 quarts of fluid) for under $7. I live in PA.

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Originally posted by SpitIX:

I ordered from Hparts.com for years and they had really great service (a guy named Mike) and very reasonable UPS shipping to PA.
Now, their service sucks (no more phone orders) and their shipping is outrageous ($17.00 on a $47.00 nothing really heavy order). When I called to comment on my disappointment concerning their sales methods and shipping prices, the guy (not Mike) basically said "whatever".
I'm very disappointed. Maybe the dealership changed hands and the new owner is greedy.
Is there another Honda place to order from that doesn't blatently try to screw you?
Thanks.

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[seotaji]

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On 6th Generation Accords/2nd gen TL's, the thing you have to look out for is their failing trannies. In fact, Honda/Acura has extended the warranty on the AT for these vehicles after numerous problems.

With that said, I am a firm believer in frequent changes of the ATF. On my Acura, I change my fluid out every 15K miles, rather than the recommended 30K interval. Also, I prefer to use Honda ATF because 1) It's not too expensive at $2.50/qt 2) The car shifts much better that with regular ATF.

I've never considered synthetic ATF, and will prob stick with the Honda fluid.

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I own a 2nd gen TL and my transmission started acting up at the 30K mark. I had the tranny flushed and it acted better, but still shifts roughly. I probably should have replaced the fluid earlier, but I had no idea since my 95 accord went 100K between flushes (with no ill effects mind you), plus the dealer reccomended a 30K tranny service and not earlier.

I hope this tranny doesn't die, but if it does sooner would be better than later.

I think it's poor decision making that led to the exclusion of a tranny cooler in this car.

Of course I'm dissapointed with this car in general, but that's another story.