Home insurance rate changes since 2021.

How does that work out? Say your house is worth $500k and it burns down, you're paying to rebuild out of pocket.

Vs a yearly insurance premium, how long to pay the insurance company the same amount as you paid out of pocket? Since you must have the money available to rebuild even a modest ROI on that money has to be more than a yearly premium. Educate me.

Chance of home destroyed by a fire is very, very, very slim.

I invested that yearly State Farm policy money and it was a great decision.

Yes, I have the money to buy another house…. not waste time / money rebuilding the burnt house.
 
Chance of home destroyed by a fire is very, very, very slim.

I invested that yearly State Farm policy money and it was a great decision.

Yes, I have the money to buy another house…. not waste time / money rebuilding the burnt house.
Didn't you used to be an insurance agent?
 
The chart can't be accurate. Before I left California, my insurance went up from $1,300 in 2020 to $1,900 in 2023... 46%.
There is a difference between MACRO and MICRO.

This is a MACRO chart.

For individuals, on a MICRO basis, so many things might impact a house insurance premium change that doesn't align with the state MACRO house insurance change. Some items on a MICRO basis:
  • Change in credit score
    • just a one point reduction in credit score may give a insurer justification to compute a homeowner into a higher risk category
  • Age of house
    • A home insured as a "new home" in one year will now longer get a "newer home" discount
  • Increase in claims in a certain neighborhood or zip code
  • Charged for a claim even though no formal claim was made
    • Just a call to an insurance company to ask if a certain loss is covered is almost always charged as a claim
  • Something in a Lexus/ Nexus report tells an insurance company you are at a higher risk
    • maybe a judgment against you for just $25- Lexus Nexus reports a judgment, the amount may be irrelevant
I am not a insurance guru, these are just common sense MICRO reasons. I am sure an insurance guru can come up with many dozens of reasons why a person's homeowner insurance rate rose higher than the state average.
 
I'm not challenging you but the data point. Personal politics aside...I contacted my well known for 20+ year insurance broker last year about my rates climbing. He was clear, just about every NY'er has seen a 35% increase in home and auto insurance since the Biden administration. I'll stop there so I don't get the mods ire. That is a reality for me in my auto and homeowners.

What's worse is they are tied together. My auto jumped big time due to a second junior driver...17yr old and less than ayear driving with a license. My homeowners included 1mil umbrella and went from $75 (cheap!) a month to current $163 a month now. Same coverage. I've had a single claim for a well pump 4 years ago. Policy is about 12 years with same carrier. Overall, well pump claim was it on 21 years at the home.
The insurance companies created bundling to handcuff you to them.
First with the initial attraction of cheaper overall pricing but ultimately to keep you locked in. If they raise your auto rates and you break with them for lower rates to go to another company, they'll raise or threaten to cancel your homeowners at renewal. They all do it.
 
My renewal just came with a decrease in premium by 15%. Of course, the kicker is instead of $1500 all perils/$1500 wind and hail they now want $1500 all perils and 2% wind and hail (in my case over $10k). I'll follow up but I assume it is what it is. At least they are charging me less for worse coverage, unlike seemingly everyone else.
 
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My renewal just came with a decrease in premium by 15%. Of course, the kicker is instead of $1500 all perils/$1500 wind and hail they now want $1500 all perils and 2% wind and hail (in my case over $10k). I'll follow up but I assume it is what it is. At least they are charging me less for worse coverage, unlike seemingly everyone else.
I just changed. Everyone I got a quote from would do at best 1% for wind. So you might be able to get them to go down to 1%. 2% was an option but it wasn't much savings. Neither was changing my standard deductible from 1K to 5K or even 10K.

Another thing is most quoted "actual value" on the roof. I was able to change it to replacement cost for not much money - I think $50 a year or something. Of course with the wind at 1% and "actual value" essentially my roof was not insured. In fact may not really be still.
 
I have been with Allstate insurance for 40+years. Home & Auto plans. Insurance makes me sick. I clearly recall standing in the front yard of our current house (been here 27 years) with my very good friend (now deceased) Allstate agent I went to school with. I handed my buddy George a check for one years payment on the house. $350 for full homeowner coverage on the house / double garage, including my auto/boat shop I have behind the house. This was in 1998 when my bill was $350.

Every single time any of the policies come up for renewal (believe me) I shop around. No matter what companies I check with, they are almost dollar for dollar the same. It kills me to pay those people the kind of money they want these days. What choice do we have?

People tell me I should drop Allstate out of spite! LoL. Funny.

At least I know that Allstate pays off almost instantly any time I have the slightest issues. If I were to change to another company I do not know what to expect for almost the same exact rates. So I keep paying Allstate until I think of something better if ever.

My yearly home owner cost is now over $3,500. Plus these days due to incompetent county officials here , one best buy a FEMA flood policy. Just add another $1200.... I will just accept it and be thankful I can afford it. Lots of folks can not in many places across the country.
I have helped several people over the years who had homes flooded with out proper coverage. That is not anything I would wish on anyone.
 
I just changed. Everyone I got a quote from would do at best 1% for wind. So you might be able to get them to go down to 1%. 2% was an option but it wasn't much savings. Neither was changing my standard deductible from 1K to 5K or even 10K.

Another thing is most quoted "actual value" on the roof. I was able to change it to replacement cost for not much money - I think $50 a year or something. Of course with the wind at 1% and "actual value" essentially my roof was not insured. In fact may not really be still.
That's just it, I'm happy with the premium cost...under $1200 for 500k not including additional structures and other riders that I have is cheap. I would gladly pay more to get my old wind/hail deductible back. I was told today Progressive has nothing below 2%.
 
Home insurance rate changes since 2021.

Studying the data, I wonder how neighboring states can have a significant difference. An example of this is Arizona and New Mexico. Arizona insurance rate chance since 2021 is reported at 48 percent. Yet New Mexico is reported at 19 percent, less than half the rate rise when compared to Arizona. Why such a significant difference with both state share a like portfolio of environmental risks to single family homes.

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It’s very possible the individual state insurance commission limited the rate increases in New Mexico more than Arizona

Insurance is regulated by the individual states.
For example, insurance companies cannot raise homeowners insurance cost in North Carolina without approval from the state. The state sets how much insurance rates can increase each year
 
I have been with Allstate insurance for 40+years. Home & Auto plans. Insurance makes me sick. I clearly recall standing in the front yard of our current house (been here 27 years) with my very good friend (now deceased) Allstate agent I went to school with. I handed my buddy George a check for one years payment on the house. $350 for full homeowner coverage on the house / double garage, including my auto/boat shop I have behind the house. This was in 1998 when my bill was $350.

Every single time any of the policies come up for renewal (believe me) I shop around. No matter what companies I check with, they are almost dollar for dollar the same. It kills me to pay those people the kind of money they want these days. What choice do we have?

People tell me I should drop Allstate out of spite! LoL. Funny.

At least I know that Allstate pays off almost instantly any time I have the slightest issues. If I were to change to another company I do not know what to expect for almost the same exact rates. So I keep paying Allstate until I think of something better if ever.

My yearly home owner cost is now over $3,500. Plus these days due to incompetent county officials here , one best buy a FEMA flood policy. Just add another $1200.... I will just accept it and be thankful I can afford it. Lots of folks can not in many places across the country.
I have helped several people over the years who had homes flooded with out proper coverage. That is not anything I would wish on anyone.
I just swapped to Allstate after 20+ yrs with State Farm. Home insurance was 25% cheaper and car insurance was nearly 50% cheaper… same coverage levels. Still can’t believe it
 
Well if its a tear down to the next guy maybe you don't need insurance like @Dave Hess is doing.
I'm not as smart or brave as @Dave Hess. I just take it one day at a time and everything works out...

FYI the house is old (1962 and 1200 sq ft) but is not a tear down. You might be surprised what the houses go for on my old block... But they rarely go for sale as it is a nice place to live.
 
I'm not as smart or brave as @Dave Hess. I just take it one day at a time and everything works out...

FYI the house is old (1962 and 1200 sq ft) but is not a tear down. You might be surprised what the houses go for on my old block... But they rarely go for sale as it is a nice place to live.
I have seen plenty of nice houses torn down in Charleston, so it wasn't a judgement on your home. In the right place they will tear down a $1M, 2500 foot property to build a $5M 6000 square foot property
 
we moved in the brand new house 2016; annual insurance was about $600

moving forward to 2025 and our home premium is $2,000 annually

besides, we have both cars with liability insurance at the same insurance company

we've been with the same insurance company for more than 20y now

btw, insurance companies suck!
 
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