Hit a shopping cart at 30mph

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You're on your own. Flying objects in the storm is not going to be responsible for your damage, you are driving the car and should be able to stop to avoid hitting stuff in the weather condition, and unfortunately things like these happen in storms. What if a homeless guy's cart got blown on the road and you hit it? Will he or the store be responsible?

I would not tell the grocery store, they might even ask you to pay for the cart.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
You're on your own. Flying objects in the storm is not going to be responsible for your damage, you are driving the car and should be able to stop to avoid hitting stuff in the weather condition, and unfortunately things like these happen in storms. What if a homeless guy's cart got blown on the road and you hit it? Will he or the store be responsible?

I would not tell the grocery store, they might even ask you to pay for the cart.



Not always true. My wife was driving a pickup getting off the interstate when a wind gust blew a road construction sign right into her path. Highway Patrol was more than happy to get in touch with the sign's owner and provide them with an accident report and a reprimand for having a non-anchored sign. The sign company was held responsible for the body work.

A shopping cart *may* be a different circumstance, but I agree with others. Let the insurance companies battle it out. That's what you pay them for.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
This is a Comprehensive insurance claim, as the shopping cart blew into your car.


But he hit the cart...in our state a lot of weight is put on who hit who regardless of the exact situation, I've seen it firsthand.

A cart blowing into the side of your car is something different..
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
This is a Comprehensive insurance claim, as the shopping cart blew into your car. Comprehensive claims don't raise insurance rates, it's like hail damage or a rock hitting your windshield.


Who told you this? This is something that could possibly vary by state, but it my experience *any* insurance claim will raise your rates. Even if it's something as innocent as a hit & run claim that's not your fault.

There are lots of insurance companies that have some sort of forgiveness, but you certainly pay for that in higher rates vs. other insurance carriers/policies that do not have this provision.

My two experiences that support this:

when I was first driving about 15-20 years ago, I filed a windshield claim. I stopped by one of those roadside repair places that claim to be no-deductible and had a cheap repair done (I was too stupid or broke at the time to pay for it out of pocket.) That small $25 claim or whatever it was, haunted me for the next 5 years. When I'd get a quote, if I did not list a comprehensive claim, I would get a normal rate, but as soon as they verified my driving/insurance history, it went up some $100-something every six months and it was explained in the "Why did my rate change" section of buying the policy that I did not report a previous comprehensive claim and the glass claim was it! If I did report it in the quote process, I simply got the higher rate. Again, this could vary by state or insurance carrier, I think I had Geico at the time.

The second one was getting sideswiped while driving when another vehicle tried to turn into my lane without looking in their blind spot. I stayed in my lane, because if I had maneuvered in the other direction to avoid him, I would have hit another car. The guy took off, but I was able to get the plate number and report it to the police. I kept having to call the police for an update, when I finally got information about it, the other vehicle was registered to an older lady that said she was not driving at the time, and the police could not establish fault toward the vehicle owner. They said was a civil matter and I should attempt to sue in small claims court. Long story short, I reported the $1,000 damage to my insurance carrier-- I believe it got turned in as a collision claim (perhaps uninsured motorist, I can't recall) and they pursued subrogation. That went nowhere (presumably because the police report did not establish a faulty party) and I paid dearly for that claim for the next 5 years.

Needless to say, if the claim is not substantial, I will NEVER involve my insurance company unless I am certain I am free from all liability. A lot of states use comparative/contributing negligence formula, so if you are even 1% at fault, your rates will go up. Insurance companies aren't your friend, they are there to take your money as a customer and profit from it, not to help you out. They are nice about it and do it with a smile though, so many people get the warm fuzzy feeling-- like they're actually there to help you, but not in my experience.
 
I borrowed my MIL's car to go to home depot and a gust of wind sucked a non-secured 4x8 sheet of plywood full of nails and old shingles out of some other guys truck and it bounced then scraped all over the hood and roof of her car. She claimed it on her insurance but IDK the outcome.

The cops didn't want to help, called it an "Act of God."

You would probably do well to self-insure this. Insurance companies have ways of getting small payouts back out of "annoying" customers.
 
I had a shopping cart roll down the parking lot at an HEB store one time,hit and ding my car when it was fairly new. They have signs everywhere saying they are not responsible for car damage done by shopping carts,but I was [censored] off! I went in and asked for the store manager,angry as can be. He was a super nice guy and walked out to my car and looked at the ding. He said to pick out any body shop,give him the estimate,and he'll pay for the repair. He was so nice and courteous about it,that I did not pursue the repair. His great attitude with the way he treated me made all the difference in the world.
 
We did not stop and take pics because of the torrential rains and the traffic on that stretch of road. I decided to see how bad it is, maybe just fix it and move on rsther than haggle over deductibles and who's at fault. Looks like 2 impact braces, a headlight, and foglight bulb. Going with eBay for the light, OEM for the impact braces. Total parts is $200. Will replacing the impact bars allow me to align the bumper evenly again? No idea, we will see.

Nothing obviously wrong, but its pushed in over an inch on drivers side. Pleasantly surprised with the lack of rust.


Looks like this impact bar and the brace it connects to is bent.


Another view. Its bent alright.


And it almost looks like that body mount spot moved with it. From a shopping cart?

But wait, the truck was in an accident once before on that side. Needed a new fender and the bumper aligned. Which it was always loose, always a bit off. That body shop was the dealer. Maybe that explains how a shopping cart caves in the bumper of a 6k truck?
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
This is a Comprehensive insurance claim, as the shopping cart blew into your car. Comprehensive claims don't raise insurance rates, it's like hail damage or a rock hitting your windshield.

Make sure you don't tell the insurance company that you hit the cart,tell them the cart blew right in front of your car.


A lot of misinformation in this thread.

If you contact your insurance company, your rates will go up regardless of the type of claim it is. Any accident you are involved in whether you are at fault or not increases the risk in the eyes of the insurance company.

My advice would be contact the store first, go through THEIR insurance. The rule is for accidents that are not your fault, do not get your insurance involved unless the party at fault refuses to pay.

When I worked claims I had this question often, and my response was always anytime you need to use the resources of your insurance company, expect rates to go up. You don't need to notify your insurance if you are hit by someone else, you only need to notify them if you expect to use your own insurance to make a claim. Everything should be outlined in your policy. The first rule of insurance is ALWAYS read your policy.
 
My guess is the grocery store manager will tell you to pound sand, how the heck does he know how your car got damaged.

Get a quote from a local body shop, and then decide if it is worth it based on your deductible. I can't see your insurance company going after the grocery store based on the circumstances.
 
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
If you contact your insurance company, your rates will go up regardless of the type of claim it is. Any accident you are involved in whether you are at fault or not increases the risk in the eyes of the insurance company.

My advice would be contact the store first, go through THEIR insurance. The rule is for accidents that are not your fault, do not get your insurance involved unless the party at fault refuses to pay.


This sums it up exactly. Use your insurance as a last resort, and only if you're going to be out a lot of money. A friend once asked me why I spent $500 out of pocket to replace windshields on two of my vehicles, when I could have claimed them on my insurance (some states by law have zero deductible for glass claims). My rates would rise immediately at my next renewal and they would stay that way for 3-5 years (depending on insurance company.) That rate increase over that time would be far more than $500.
 
Originally Posted By: 92saturnsl2
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
If you contact your insurance company, your rates will go up regardless of the type of claim it is. Any accident you are involved in whether you are at fault or not increases the risk in the eyes of the insurance company.

My advice would be contact the store first, go through THEIR insurance. The rule is for accidents that are not your fault, do not get your insurance involved unless the party at fault refuses to pay.


This sums it up exactly. Use your insurance as a last resort, and only if you're going to be out a lot of money. A friend once asked me why I spent $500 out of pocket to replace windshields on two of my vehicles, when I could have claimed them on my insurance (some states by law have zero deductible for glass claims). My rates would rise immediately at my next renewal and they would stay that way for 3-5 years (depending on insurance company.) That rate increase over that time would be far more than $500.
You need to get rid of that scammy insurance company if they raise your rates over comprehensive claims.

Glass insurance claims have never risen my rates, or anyone in my family.

My aunt goes through a windshield close to every year, for the last 15 years. Same low insurance rates.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: 92saturnsl2
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
If you contact your insurance company, your rates will go up regardless of the type of claim it is. Any accident you are involved in whether you are at fault or not increases the risk in the eyes of the insurance company.

My advice would be contact the store first, go through THEIR insurance. The rule is for accidents that are not your fault, do not get your insurance involved unless the party at fault refuses to pay.


This sums it up exactly. Use your insurance as a last resort, and only if you're going to be out a lot of money. A friend once asked me why I spent $500 out of pocket to replace windshields on two of my vehicles, when I could have claimed them on my insurance (some states by law have zero deductible for glass claims). My rates would rise immediately at my next renewal and they would stay that way for 3-5 years (depending on insurance company.) That rate increase over that time would be far more than $500.
You need to get rid of that scammy insurance company if they raise your rates over comprehensive claims.

Glass insurance claims have never risen my rates, or anyone in my family.

My aunt goes through a windshield close to every year, for the last 15 years. Same low insurance rates.


Every company and policy is different. It varies widely between areas, distance driven per year, coverages you have, etc, but they all find a way to get more and more money from you.
 
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