High Milage Oil

[HBCALI]

For vehicles with higher milage, does anyone have experience using products like Max Life from Valvoline? I don't have leaks and the engine is mechanically sound, so I'm not sure if a product like "Max Life" is really necessary. I'm already running a full synthetic with no concerns. Besides, I think most higher milage oils are semi-synths anyway.

I'm looking for a high quality full sythnthetic that won't rob my seals of needed conditioner as the engine ages. Any ideas?

 

[Quest]

If you don't have leaks of any kind and the engine doesn't use much oil, just keep on using regular motor oil and you'll be fine.

Your seals do not need conditioning so long as they don't leak, period.


No need to jump into the marketing hype ("...oh! my vehicle just hit 100,000kms and now it's officially categorised as "old tymer"...gotta switch meself over to High Mileage oil now...")

Q.

 

[5sfe91]

What kind of vehicle? How many miles?
What oil are you currently using?

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: Quest
If you don't have leaks of any kind and the engine doesn't use much oil, just keep on using regular motor oil and you'll be fine.

Your seals do not need conditioning so long as they don't leak, period.


No need to jump into the marketing hype ("...oh! my vehicle just hit 100,000kms and now it's officially categorised as "old tymer"...gotta switch meself over to High Mileage oil now...")

Q.


+1 IMO if you're already using a good synthetic and there are no leaks, keep doing what you're doing.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

"Full synthetic" - now there's an oxymoron ... That would include only some Amsoil and Redline in the US marketed oils(?) Everything else is dino extra high detergent oil.

 

[chevrofreak]

Run Red Line from time to time, or simply spike your favorite oil with it at something like a 25% concentration and it will keep your seals nice and pliable.

 

[HBCALI]

Thanks all. My vehicle is a 2001 Accord (2.3L VTEC). I'm running Royal Purple 5W-20 currently. Without mudslinging, Royal Purple has done well for me so far, but prices keep rising and it's getting harder to find. So I'm trying to make the switch to another oil that's well suited for my application. Mainly, high heat (over 100F) and other severe conditions of South Texas.

Just didn't want to succomb to the "Marketing" of Max Life if it wasn't required for my seals. Thanks again forum!

 

[hate2work]

Welcome to the forum, HB

Sounds like you're already doing well with the RP, I wouldn't change anything at this point.

Does your car have an AT? That seems to be a trouble spot for Hondas of that era.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: Quest
No need to jump into the marketing hype

Incorrect...

not all of it is marketing...look at M1's HM line it IS a better built oil with boosted additives being a API SL rated oil vs. the standard flavor.

and all for the same exact price..

 

[HBCALI]

Thanks for the welcome. Mobil 1 only seems to make High Milage oil in 5w30 and 10W-__. I need 5W-20 per the 2001 Accord owner's manual.

Like I mentioned, looking for a good replacement oil to take the place of RP. Not sure I need High Milage oil if my seals are good and I have extreamly little burn-off during the full change interval. Like I mentioned, RP is just too hard to find in my area. I would assume AMSOIL is harder to come by.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Run whatever is cheapest and make you feel "comfortable", there exist no relevant data to claim one brand better than the other ** other than personal owner qualitative experience.

** given a normal service interval/OCI

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: HBCALI
I need 5W-20 per the 2001 Accord owner's manual.
, looking for a good replacement oil to take the place of RP.

M1 has 0w20 found at Walmart if that's acceptable alternative witch im sure it should be.

 

[HBCALI]

Quote:
Your seals do not need conditioning so long as they don't leak, period.

Does that seem accurate to everyone? Seems resonable to me. What's the general consensus here - seal conditioners or not? Max Life marketing would like me to think the conditioners will prevent future leaks. Hype or not? Remember, I have no evident leaks and no burn-off during OCI.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: HBCALI
Quote:
Your seals do not need conditioning so long as they don't leak, period.

Does that seem accurate to everyone? Seems resonable to me. What's the general consensus here - seal conditioners or not? Max Life marketing would like me to think the conditioners will prevent future leaks. Hype or not? Remember, I have no evident leaks and no burn-off during OCI.

I have ran High Mileage oil's(Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30)in my MIL's G6 since before 30,000 miles,NO issues just a FYI.

 

[tig1]

My sons 91 Ranger has 350K all on Mobil 1 oils, however he switched to Mobil 1 5w30 High Mileage sometine ago for seal conditioners.

 

[subiedriver]

I'm running Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 and 10w30 in my '04 Subaru, not because it has 109,000 miles, but because its an awesome oil, gread add pack. Its not going to hurt anything either way.

 

[daman]

Nope...

 

[kcfx4]

Im more interested in a true view as to hm, used to you were lucky to get 100k out of an engine, now thats to being able to read this site it almost seems as if the skys the limit

 

[wander2039]

I'm running Maxlife 10w30 in the Festiva right now. Previously ran Super Tech High Mileage 10w40. Due to being neglected by PI's every seal in the engine is shot. Even leaking through the dist'y which I was told wasn't possible. The maxlife has slowed down the leaks a small amount but hasn't stopped the oil from bypassing the valve seals when it gets hot. Going to switch to Maxlife 20w50 and see what it does. Does seem to like the Maxlife over the other 10w40. All that being said all my other Festiva's I've never had to run HM and they had more miles. One owner cars that's been taken care of probably not.. a car with a dozen PI's probably will need a HM eventually.

 

[HBCALI]

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
"Full synthetic" - now there's an oxymoron ... That would include only some Amsoil and Redline in the US marketed oils(?) Everything else is dino extra high detergent oil.


What's your source? Are you seriously saying that all current main-stream synthetics are nothing more than conventional with a detergent package? So if I simply took out the detergent, a product like Mobil 1 would be totally equivilant to coventional oil?