Hertz to buy 100K Teslas

I call it-the officer was neglectful-at best (incompetent at the worst) for taking a patrol vehicle with a limited range on a chase of an unknown duration.

As stated-a Tesla has a range countdown-it's not rocket science. BTW-I would be saying the same thing if it was a garbage truck sitting in the middle of the street because the operator ran out of battery as well.
A corollary is, EVs are not the best vehicle for every situation. No car is.
A drop dead 911 would not do well off-road, right? That don't make it bad.
 
A corollary is, EVs are not the best vehicle for every situation. No car is.
A drop dead 911 would not do well off-road, right? That don't make it bad.
911 Safari has entered the chat!

But honestly you’re 100% correct, and people need to start realizing that.
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You made that clear in your post which, I don’t doubt is the case but you opened that post by suggesting that the officer was “stupid”. Because why, for continuing to follow the suspect given those warning indicators? In an ICE vehicle there is a low fuel warning light that illuminates. Wonder how many times over the decades a cop was stupid enough to continue after a bad guy when it was lit?
How far did he think he was gonna go on empty? According to the article the vehicle was on empty when he took it out that night.
That is some pretty bad judgement, right?
By the way, I live just south of Fremont. I remember when the Fremont Police Dept added their Model S, in solidarity with the Fremont Tesla plant.
 
A corollary is, EVs are not the best vehicle for every situation. No car is.
A drop dead 911 would not do well off-road, right? That don't make it bad.

911's used to win Paris to Dakar.

Idaho has tried the E.V. registration tax. It lasted 1 or 2 years, I had to pay about double for my Hybrid Accord. It was then Quickly repealed.
 
Stock is up another $60+ today. $180 for the month.

Up $115.18 today, I don't own it, but sure alot of haters here for a stock that is soaring, for now.

Close $1,024.86, $115.18, 12.66%,

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Up $115.18 today, I don't own it, but sure alot of haters here for a stock that is soaring, for now.

Close $1,024.86, $115.18, 12.66%,
So I spend the better part of 60 large on a Model 3 in Dec 2018.
TSLA was in the low $60 range.
Let's see... $58,000 / $63 = 920 shares.
920 * $1,024 = a lotta scratch...

Ya win some and ya lose some...
 
Let's hope the "deal" included charging stations at the rental locations.
Unfortunately, nobody is prepared for the loss of maintenance jobs associated with ICE cars. If I was a "mechanic" for Hertz, I'd be worried.

In that same vein, the entire economy is not prepared for the loss of jobs linked to the adoption of electric vehicles. No oil filters, no oil changes, no coolant changes, no fuel rails, fuel pumps, injectors, none of that.
By that logic, railroads should should still be running steam, so they could hold on to more employees and have lower profits. Just because a Tesla doesn't need an oil change, doesn't mean that they won't have wear and tear.
 
I’m a long time - high status customer of Enterprise … for the first time in a decade I was refused a car that was booked and confirmed weeks in advance as part of an international trip. She said they are desperate for cars and they are going to the largest customers … Could I switch days ? (Lufthansa would love that extra $3k) …

I hired a driver service who picked me up in a nice Yukon … that’s what I booked for next trip …
 
Here goes Turo…

Sure, Hertz could have bought a few thousand Bolts/Leafs/Niro EVs but Tesla does have status and Elon can deliver. The chip shortage has hit GM hard.
 
Rental car keeps a car for what, 2-3 years? They won't be dealing with any of that.
Hertz tends to unload their American/Korean fleet sooner than their Toyota fleet from what I’ve seen. A friend bought a former Hertz Lexus GX460. 2018, 40K on the clock. I was driving a Cruze as an insurance loaner from HLE, it had 16K on the clock, 2019.

Back when riding Uber and Lyft was still a thing, Hertz and Enterprise grabbed their “oldest” cars that were still in good shape for their gig driver program. I’ve seen older Altimas, Sonatas, Camrys and Prii all adored with the Uber badge at the local Enterprise.
 
Let's hope the "deal" included charging stations at the rental locations.
Unfortunately, nobody is prepared for the loss of maintenance jobs associated with ICE cars. If I was a "mechanic" for Hertz, I'd be worried.

In that same vein, the entire economy is not prepared for the loss of jobs linked to the adoption of electric vehicles. No oil filters, no oil changes, no coolant changes, no fuel rails, fuel pumps, injectors, none of that.
Tesla is the only EV that would make sense for Hertz, because of Tesla's extensive charging network. Not to mention, people want to drive Teslas, not Bolts. When people think "EV", they think "Tesla". Last time I rented a car there was a Tesla; the attendant told me people always ask about it.

I suggest that people consider that EVs are coming whether we like it or not. Do you want America to own the EV market or China?
By the way, I am not sure mechanics are going away. There is plenty to do. Regardless, technology marches on; it always has and always will.
And there are winners and losers.
 
Charging might be hard to tax, for example I charge with solar panels. Who knows?
Regarding trouble, Teslas have like 13 moving parts in their drivetrain. I would guess you know far more about this stuff than I ever will. The rest of the car is less of an infant technology. General maintenance is very low in comparison; the biggest difference would be brake component lube in inclement weather (due to regen, brakes are used far less and may lock up). The rest is tire rotation, cabin air filter, etc. just like any car.

I am not sure I can totally agree with your "good tech vs longevity" statement. Good tech should lead to longevity. Of course it remains to be seen.
All good.

Think about what goes wrong, even on “reliable” cars. Very little is actually the engine/transmission.

Quality has more to do with how well the AC evaporator, or little plastic clips, or rubber seals, or suspension bushings last in the two or three owner real world. It doesn’t strike me that we are there yet.

You bring up a good point about brakes, my hybrid brakes don’t see much rotor or pad wear. Sometimes I have to stop hard just to get the rust off the rear rotors. But that’s not a quality issue, that’s a good thing believe it or not. Quality would be rusted brake lines or calipers that seize up easily, or bad abs electronics that throw codes often. That type of thing.

I’d agree that good tech should bring reliability. But sometimes complexity and new good tech brings bugs. Tesla’s fight against right to repair leaves me wondering…

Can you even buy a Tesla on a used car lot?
 
Hopefully electric charging becomes taxed. There should be at least parity with what fueled vehicles pay for roads.
Oh, don't worry. Tax masters will not let EVs "cheat" them out of taxes for roads. There may even be a day where people charging at home will have to put EV charging power through a dedicated meter so it can be charged and taxed differently than the power going to the house use.

Of course, people with their own solar panels would probably be exempt from power company intervention.
 
A road tax system based on weight, axles and distance has been in use here in NZ for at least 40 years. It applies to every vehicle using public roads not powered by gasoline or LPG, the latter of which are taxed at fuel source. Diesel is not taxed at the pump. EVs have an exemption for another 2 years. You just buy the distance as needed online or at a post office or similar. The label is placed in a small holder so it's visible out the windshield.

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