Yup, Im not sure where the idea these are "maintenance free" ever came from, there is plenty to do that isn't engine and trans related.
Hertz to buy 100K Teslas
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Yup, Im not sure where the idea these are "maintenance free" ever came from, there is plenty to do that isn't engine and trans related.
Rental car keeps a car for what, 2-3 years? They won't be dealing with any of that.
Tesla's residual values might mean a different (later) mileage/age sweet spot at which rental companies turn them over.
This is great. Let's not innovate because the economy can't take the hit. How many manure shovel operators were put out of business when the first Fords started rolling off the assembly lines? How about all those who grew grain/feed/ for those horses?
The kicking and screaming on BITOG against "electric cars" is comical and entertaining on here!
If you think of EVs as ICE cars, or Teslas as traditional cars, while there are of course many similarities, you just might be mistaken.
If a rental car goes 3+ hours between rents, it can be fully charged with a SuperCharger. The cost of electricity is still a fraction of gasoline, right?
If these cars were so much trouble, why is the demand so high?
No offense, but the difference between Silicon Valley and much of the world is, while others see problems, impossibllity, etc, we see opportunity.
And Tesla is now a $1T company. All the naysayers have been proven wrong. 3 short years ago they were nearly belly up.
Another thing... If 100 people rent a Hertz Tesla, what percentage will be thrilled and go buy one of their own?
If a rental car goes 3+ hours between rents, it can be fully charged with a SuperCharger. The cost of electricity is still a fraction of gasoline, right?
If these cars were so much trouble, why is the demand so high?
No offense, but the difference between Silicon Valley and much of the world is, while others see problems, impossibllity, etc, we see opportunity.
And Tesla is now a $1T company. All the naysayers have been proven wrong. 3 short years ago they were nearly belly up.
Another thing... If 100 people rent a Hertz Tesla, what percentage will be thrilled and go buy one of their own?
This is good news. After 3 years it will open opportunities to buy used Tesla’s. Regarding charging, customers will probably bring them in uncharged and pay the fee. Each car stall will have a charger, maybe just a 110 V. I don't know what the turnaround is on a rental car but I suspect no faster than going out the next morning. ( 8 to 24 hrs).
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Rental company executive minds across the nation….
Day X: Purchase TSLA.
Day X+1: Announce that I’m electrifying my fleet.
Day X+2: Profits.
Day X: Purchase TSLA.
Day X+1: Announce that I’m electrifying my fleet.
Day X+2: Profits.
Teslas charge at 3 miles per hour on 110, so they'll probably have something better. Perhaps provide multi-day users with a 110 charger.
Hertz is initially going to comp the charge fee until they figure out the rest of their business model.
Who are you referring to as stupid? The officer for attempting to stop a felon or the department for placing a Tesla on patrol?
Perfect Business Model. Customer has to allot four to six hours of charge time before handing it back.
Time is indeed money. What could possibly go wrong with this? /s
JHZR2
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Hopefully electric charging becomes taxed. There should be at least parity with what fueled vehicles pay for roads.
Regarding trouble, how many of these cars have been in private owners’ hands for 10+ years? How many have gotten sold on a car lot, or better, a buy here pay here lot? Can people actually own these cars and maintain them themselves? Go to autozone to get parts?
The reality is that nobody can say much when it’s an infant technology. Taxicabs don’t really count, just like they don’t when looking at IC vehicles.
Good tech and longevity are vastly different parameters.
Nick1994
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To be fair, I don’t think shocks, sway bars, tie rods, or wheel bearings are a normal maintenance item. Those are repairs these days. A lot of the time they can go 100’s of thousands of miles without needing replaced. Sometimes they don’t last that long.
It's more the bushings that go, but It depends on the roads where you drive and how you drive, point is there is there is all kinds of maintenance and repair work to be done on EV's. They aren't even close to maintenance free.
There is going to be plenty or work and parts sales. Over time the parts and work will shift, but we will always need good shops.
Heres a video of a 5 year old rig with 165K - pretty standard stuff going on with some specialized parts.
The reality is that electric vehicles require less maintenance and are more reliable.
Here is the maintenance schedule for Tesla models:
https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance
Here is the maintenance schedule for Tesla models:
https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance
This is financially irresponsible. If Hertz hasn't looked at the semi fiasco, let alone the Cyber truck is in its fourth or fifth delay. "Now end of 2022 lol hashtag oops." Signed lord Elon. Did they not see the stunt Tesla pulled a month back, when they told thousands of owners via their screen "Sorry your hardware isn't compatible with new versions of autopilot please see a Tesla service center to upgrade your hardware for $1,500."
The point is, Tesla sends up all kinds of warning flags when your range is low.
Charging might be hard to tax, for example I charge with solar panels. Who knows?
Regarding trouble, Teslas have like 13 moving parts in their drivetrain. I would guess you know far more about this stuff than I ever will. The rest of the car is less of an infant technology. General maintenance is very low in comparison; the biggest difference would be brake component lube in inclement weather (due to regen, brakes are used far less and may lock up). The rest is tire rotation, cabin air filter, etc. just like any car.
I am not sure I can totally agree with your "good tech vs longevity" statement. Good tech should lead to longevity. Of course it remains to be seen.
All good.
This is a tale of two cities. Hertz is getting this money from someone/somewhere to purchase these Tesla cars. They don’t have it themselves as their stock trades with the penny shares and they just came out of Chapter 11. Meanwhile Tesla is the supposed trillion dollar company, bigger than anything else in the universe?
It’s a good business idea but this whole story is getting blown way out of proportion in many directions
It’s a good business idea but this whole story is getting blown way out of proportion in many directions
I will call it-the officer was neglectful-at best (incompetent at the worst) for taking a patrol vehicle with a limited range on a chase of an unknown duration.
As stated-a Tesla has a range countdown-it's not rocket science. BTW-I would be saying the same thing if it was a garbage truck sitting in the middle of the street because the operator ran out of battery as well.
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You made that clear in your post which, I don’t doubt is the case but you opened that post by suggesting that the officer was “stupid”. Because why, for continuing to follow the suspect given those warning indicators? In an ICE vehicle there is a low fuel warning light that illuminates. Wonder how many times over the decades a cop was stupid enough to continue after a bad guy when it was lit?