"Helpful" Son SEALED in BUG splats?!

[SumpChump]

Now, I'm not a jerk, so I haven't said anything to my some about this....

My new Corolla , which I had lovingly washed and waxed with Meguires Ultimate products for the last year had some bu on the front bumper and hood. So my son surprised my by washing the front end. He used two buckets and only a microfiber instead of a true MIT. The micifiber looked fairly good when I got home and he pressure washed it before, so scratches are probably not a big issue but he added a few with just using a microfiber on the good no doubt.

But that's all besides the point. He didn't get all the big splats off. He got all the body and guts but that final layer of splat very thin is there in the light. Then he did a Quick Detailer over it all.

My question is...
Are the splats sealed in for a while down until the Detailer degrades? They didn't budge when I went over tem with a hot microfiber and one finger as if they were sealed?

Do I leave them and then they'll come out later or do I clay just those spots? Will clay even get to the splat and remove it? Ideas?

It wouldn't be noticed by most folks but they can be seen by a car guy for sure and it feels nasty having them sealed into the otherwise nice glossy results he did.

 

[Klutch9]

Clay and lube should clean that right up. Most quick detailers do 'cure', but clay should be able to life those bugs off. If not, go with a specific product to remove bugs from paint.

 

[Scum_Frog]

A little detailer spray and elbow grease should solve your problem.

 

[WANG]

The car is ruined. Once Meg's quick detailer seals something into the paint it becomesva permanent artifact. This is particularly true after the paint has been scuffed up with a soapy microfiber towel. You best bet is to get a da polisher and the the most aggressive compound you can lay hands on to cut through the quick detailer and allow you to wash the bugs off. If the compound wont do it, you will have to sand the bugs out, and hopefully you can just respray the clearcoat and be fine.

 

[WANG]

Not really. Chill out, man. They will wash off the next time you execute your wash wax regimen.

 

[Donald]

Be thankful your son wanted to help out vs critiquing his work.

 

[Trav]

Good one.

 

[440Magnum]

I'm checking the calendar to see if its already April 1 so soon.

"Sealed" splats from Quick Detailer? Srsly?? Just wash it again. Scratches from a microfiber towel? REALLY??? My word, how did my vintage cars survive all those decades of being washed with old T-shirts and discarded bath towels? Oh, the humanity.

 

[CarbonSteel]

I would not sweat the small stuff; will this REALLY matter in a few years? Speaking for me, I would focus on my relationship with my son and that he wanted to help out instead bemoaning a car that will be replaced at some point...

 

[spavel6]

Corolla in the rust belt... I think you have bigger issues to worry about..

 

[bubbatime]

You guys remove bugs? I've literally trucked on for over 200K miles with one car and never removed the bugs. Lots and lots of love bugs too. Didn't see the point as the difference at trade in between bugs and no bugs is like $100.

 

[TomYoung]

Originally Posted By: WANG
The car is ruined. Once Meg's quick detailer seals something into the paint it becomesva permanent artifact. This is particularly true after the paint has been scuffed up with a soapy microfiber towel. You best bet is to get a da polisher and the the most aggressive compound you can lay hands on to cut through the quick detailer and allow you to wash the bugs off. If the compound wont do it, you will have to sand the bugs out, and hopefully you can just respray the clearcoat and be fine.


Is this supposed to be a joke????

 

[TomYoung]

You are getting some pretty weak advice here! I would do the following: Wash your car by hand with microfiber mit, scrubber and dish soap in warm water. Rinse well. Using a reputable bug and tar remover, remove those bugs. If they don't go away, use cleaner wax and or a mild compound. Claybar with detailer liquid. What does not come out at that point you should probably live with, although wetsanding is always a possibility -- but only if you know what you are doing. Your car is new, so I would skip polishing, maybe do a quick glaze with M07 and then finish with a high quality wax.

Also, note that bugs tend to eat at paint and to stain, so I would suggest this detailing process happen ASAP.

God bless you and your son and his generosity.

 

[TomYoung]

Originally Posted By: Klutch9
Clay and lube should clean that right up. Most quick detailers do 'cure', but clay should be able to life those bugs off. If not, go with a specific product to remove bugs from paint.

This is not really the case. Claybar removes some surface contaminants, but does not generally remove all the wax. Also, most quick detailer "lubes" are actually watery spray-on waxes. You need to get the sealer out of the way, then remove the bug haze, then claybar, then get the paint sealed back up, shiny and protected (Polish, Glaze, Wax).

 

[Vikas]

Originally Posted By: TomYoung
Originally Posted By: WANG
The car is ruined. Once Meg's quick detailer seals something into the paint it becomesva permanent artifact. This is particularly true after the paint has been scuffed up with a soapy microfiber towel. You best bet is to get a da polisher and the the most aggressive compound you can lay hands on to cut through the quick detailer and allow you to wash the bugs off. If the compound wont do it, you will have to sand the bugs out, and hopefully you can just respray the clearcoat and be fine.


Is this supposed to be a joke????
Wow, people really get worked up here, don't they?? I mean they don't even read the next response before pouncing on the first one! Only if you had even bothered to glance at the next reply which was already there when you decided to comment on the first one.

Quote:
Not really. Chill out, man. They will wash off the next time you execute your wash wax regimen.

 

[Scum_Frog]

Speaking of easy bug removal, my new to me F150 came with a 3M paint protection film (clear bra) on the front 1/3 of the truck......WOW makes bug removal a breeze.......and believe me we have enough bugs up here to supply you all with!

 

[440Magnum]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Wow, people really get worked up here, don't they??


Its always fun to stir up the 'detail and wax' forum when a topic pops up in the main site side-bar and I click it before I realize what its about... ;-)

 

[TomYoung]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Originally Posted By: TomYoung
Originally Posted By: WANG
The car is ruined. Once Meg's quick detailer seals something into the paint it becomesva permanent artifact. This is particularly true after the paint has been scuffed up with a soapy microfiber towel. You best bet is to get a da polisher and the the most aggressive compound you can lay hands on to cut through the quick detailer and allow you to wash the bugs off. If the compound wont do it, you will have to sand the bugs out, and hopefully you can just respray the clearcoat and be fine.



Is this supposed to be a joke????
Wow, people really get worked up here, don't they?? I mean they don't even read the next response before pouncing on the first one! Only if you had even bothered to glance at the next reply which was already there when you decided to comment on the first one.

Quote:
Not really. Chill out, man. They will wash off the next time you execute your wash wax regimen.

Bug splats are no laughing matter!

 

[RTexasF]

Use clay or better yet a Speedy Surface Prep Towel or Nanoskin towel instead. The next step would involve bug and tar remover. If you still have remnants then a polish, preferably by machine, will be required. Meguiar's Ultimate Compound can be used by hand if you have no machine access. Seal it with a good sealant or synthetic wax. Have son help you so he can understand why all these steps are necessary.

A comment above alluded to a new car not needing to be polished. That is both ridiculous and just flat wrong. Almost 100% of new cars need a machine polish. Why? Inept dealer make ready departments. They install swirls and marring free of charge. some will cover them with a glaze to hide them until the first wash by the new owner. Anyone with a trained eye can see these marks in a heartbeat.

 

[ryanschillinger]

Clay bar, light polish after. If the bugs were on there long enough to etch the paint, that had nothing to do with your sons cleaning. The quick detailer isn't going to seal anything. You should actually wash it off and wax the area anyway.