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Excellent oil!
I've got a 1986 VW jetta with 300k on it and it saw alot of Havoline.
I'd have NO problem running it for 5k or 6months.
Take care, bill
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I've got a 1986 VW jetta with 300k on it and it saw alot of Havoline.
I'd have NO problem running it for 5k or 6months.
Take care, bill
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I like it better than SM as it has higher zddp levels. You got a super deal. Now just get good filters (not Fram).
You better go with the new deposit shield if you want any kind of protection with that Toyota, buddy.
Seriously, that's a good score there! Lucky you.
Seriously, that's a good score there! Lucky you.
Nice score! Last summer I found 6 - 6qt. Jugs of Pennzoil SL for 4.95 a jug
I wish we could find more deals like these...
I wish we could find more deals like these...
Agree, I like the SL better then the SM; one reason why I switched from Havoline to Maxlife in one vehicle was because I couldn't find anymore SL for an older truck I have.
You guys are nuts for only focusing on a possibility that an SL version of low cost conventional oil might have a little more ZDDP. SM/GF-4 oils are simply better even if the ZDDP levels are held to a max of .08%
SM/GF-4 test requirements require less Total Deposits TEOST (MHT4), less viscosity increase after 100 hours (Seq IIIG) versus 80 hours (Seq IIIF), less cam plus lifter wear (Seq IIIG & Seq IVA), and adds an aged oil low temperature viscosity requirement (Seq IIIGA). Add in the Fords specs, for added tests requirements, and you almost assured of better oil.
SM/GF-4 test requirements require less Total Deposits TEOST (MHT4), less viscosity increase after 100 hours (Seq IIIG) versus 80 hours (Seq IIIF), less cam plus lifter wear (Seq IIIG & Seq IVA), and adds an aged oil low temperature viscosity requirement (Seq IIIGA). Add in the Fords specs, for added tests requirements, and you almost assured of better oil.
Late versions of SL/GF-3 oils showed about the same levels of zinc and phosphorus as SM/GF-4 oils, like they were tweaking the formulas to get them good to go before the official SM release.
Yes, there was even an additional Sequence test for SL/GF-3 oils with lowered ZDDP levels prior to the certification of the SM/GF-4 oils.
I wish... My local HD had the dino SL for $1.60'ish and the synthetic was still almost $4 even on clearance.
427,
But I think you'd agree that SL Havoline is a excellent oil when its under $1 a quart?
I sure do. If my running of SF/SG/SH and beyond got many of my engines to 200k and one to 300k, SL will do it with NO worries IMO.
Just use the SL and change every 4-5k or 6mo and you're covered.
Merry Christmas, Bill
But I think you'd agree that SL Havoline is a excellent oil when its under $1 a quart?
I sure do. If my running of SF/SG/SH and beyond got many of my engines to 200k and one to 300k, SL will do it with NO worries IMO.
Just use the SL and change every 4-5k or 6mo and you're covered.
Merry Christmas, Bill
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You guys don't realize how good you've got it down there. Up here, Walmart sells dino Pennzoil for about $3.79 a quart, and Canadian Tire sells it for $3.99!
I'm waiting for it to go on sale so I can grab some for my wife's car's next oil change in the spring.
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427,
But I think you'd agree that SL Havoline is a excellent oil when its under $1 a quart?
I sure do. If my running of SF/SG/SH and beyond got many of my engines to 200k and one to 300k, SL will do it with NO worries IMO.
Sure, but if you can find the SM/GF-4 version for about the same price, why not use the potentially better oil?
In any event, the main point of my post was that SL oils aren't necessarily better just because they have a little more ZDDP in them.
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427,
But I think you'd agree that SL Havoline is a excellent oil when its under $1 a quart?
I sure do. If my running of SF/SG/SH and beyond got many of my engines to 200k and one to 300k, SL will do it with NO worries IMO.
Sure, but if you can find the SM/GF-4 version for about the same price, why not use the potentially better oil?
In any event, the main point of my post was that SL oils aren't necessarily better just because they have a little more ZDDP in them.
What are the differences between SL and SM oils beside the lowering levels of ZDDP and maybe even moly?
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427,
But I think you'd agree that SL Havoline is a excellent oil when its under $1 a quart?
I sure do. If my running of SF/SG/SH and beyond got many of my engines to 200k and one to 300k, SL will do it with NO worries IMO.
Sure, but if you can find the SM/GF-4 version for about the same price, why not use the potentially better oil?
In any event, the main point of my post was that SL oils aren't necessarily better just because they have a little more ZDDP in them.
What are the differences between SL and SM oils beside the lowering levels of ZDDP and maybe even moly?
Basestocks and additives. Notice many SM/GF-4 formulations are at least Group II+ or blends of Group II & III. New forms of or substitute additives such borates, moly, antimony. MolaKule mentioned this several times in the past.
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