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[Bill7]

Average bitoger: “I changed HPL at 3.5k miles because my 90hp Kia rio falls under severe service and also oil is cheap, engines aren’t!”

I would rather buy a used car from someone doing 3k OCI than some oil expert doing 20k OCI.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

The 25,000 Castrol claim terrifies me. I don't understand why they put that on the bottle.

It terrifies you because you forgot to read their fine print, that specifies “**not to exceed OEM recommendations” or something very similar…. Then, it’s not anything but underwhelming, because OEMs generally design their recommended OCI for Jane Average, who isn’t even 1% mechanically inclined. And Jane, in this instance, is gender-fluid IYKWIM.

 

[wemay]

It terrifies you because you forgot to read their fine print, that specifies “**not to exceed OEM recommendations” or something very similar…. Then, it’s not anything but underwhelming, because OEMs generally design their recommended OCI for Jane Average, who isn’t even 1% mechanically inclined. And Jane, in this instance, is gender-fluid IYKWIM.

I believe they actually say, "Not to exceed OEM oil drain recommendations while under your manufacturer's warranty"

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

I believe they actually say, "Not to exceed OEM oil drain recommendations while under your manufacturer's warranty"

Actually, it’s not…

 

[tcp71]

The Canadian bottle of edge doesn't mention anything about manufacturer's OEM intervals. It took 4 screencaps to get the full front/back of the bottle.

 

[wemay]

Actually, it’s not…
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These companies are not idiots. Of course they'll always "Recommend" you follow the manufacturers interval when being asked that question.

But they also say this....

 

[Freischneider]

I remember not long ago this used to be less than $20 for 6 quarts.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

The Canadian bottle of edge doesn't mention anything about manufacturer's OEM intervals. It took 4 screencaps to get the full front/back of the bottle.


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Of course it doesn’t. The website does.

 

[Ayrton]

It terrifies you because you forgot to read their fine print, that specifies “**not to exceed OEM recommendations” or something very similar…. Then, it’s not anything but underwhelming, because OEMs generally design their recommended OCI for Jane Average, who isn’t even 1% mechanically inclined. And Jane, in this instance, is gender-fluid IYKWIM.

Right, this is not going to trick me. I'm worried about someone who has no interest in automobiles besides getting them from point a to point b. There's legit no car out there that is going to recommend 25,000 OCI, so why put it on the bottle?

I'm not suggesting it's super shady or I think less of Castrol. I just don't like that this was the measure a couple of the oil companies are using to market their product.

 

[daniel327]

I use Castrol Vecton in my diesel vehicle. It says on the oil drum: "Approved by MAN for up to 120,000 km and Mercedes Benz, Volvo, and Renault for up to 100,000 km in accordance with their specifications". So, not changing the oil in a car most people only own for a couple of years or for the warranty period shouldn't be surprising.