Havoline now API SQ and ILSAC GF-7A

[perkz]

 

[ATex7239]

Now if it was just more available and came in 5 quart containers.

 

[Patman]

The official release date for SQ and GF-7A is tomorrow actually (March 31), so we will start seeing all of the major oils with these new approvals on the labels now. In reality the manufacturers have already been putting the new formula in their old packaging, that started back in the fall. So if you can decode the different production dates then you might find out that you already have oil in your stash that is SQ and GF-7A

 

[burbguy82]

what is SQ, and what is the difference in performance than SP?

 

[Dave Hess]

Great oil but unfortunately very little love for Havoline oil.

 

[Patman]

what is SQ, and what is the difference in performance than SP?

In a nutshell it offers better protection against LSPI and slightly better wear protection

 

[buster]

https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=518483&docFormat=PDF

 

[burbguy82]

In a nutshell it offers better protection against LSPI and slightly better wear protection

interesting that it offers better LSPI protection, as many here think that the issue does not really exist. Someone sure thinks it does.

 

[buster]

They also mention that it exceeds GF-7 piston deposit reduction. Quite frankly GF-7 isn't that stringent to begin with at 4.2 min for WPD.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Great oil but unfortunately very little love for Havoline oil.

I like Havoline but hate the box.

 

[Zee09]

All those great certs-specs and it's only a 10k oil while all the others are 20 to 25K although most won't ever go that far.

 

[Mainia]

interesting that it offers better LSPI protection, as many here think that the issue does not really exist. Someone sure thinks it does.

I had a LSPI event on my 2018 1.6T Hyundai turbo. LSPI is a small cubic inch/liter engine turbo thing. The engine made it through it, I don't know how. Still in stock form when it happened. I went WFO at about 1,600 to 2,200 rpm can't remember for sure , and BAM. It felt like the car jumped 5 ft in the air. The event was very violent. I was sure the motor was totaled right there and then, but it was still idling and sounded normal. The car is now a tuner car and gets beat on hard daily. At 63,000 miles, but it is a Hyundai, it will be a miracle if it makes it to 100,000 miles.

 

[Zee09]

I like Havoline but hate the box.

It's not a good deal but....

 

[burbguy82]

I had a LSPI event on my 2018 1.6T Hyundai turbo. LSPI is a small cubic inch/liter engine turbo thing. The engine made it through it, I don't know how. Still in stock form when it happened. I went WFO at about 1,600 to 2,200 rpm can't remember for sure , and BAM. It felt like the car jumped 5 ft in the air. The event was very violent. I was sure the motor was totaled right there and then, but it was still idling and sounded normal. The car is now a tuner car and gets beat on hard daily. At 63,000 miles, but it is a Hyundai, it will be a miracle if it makes it to 100,000 miles.

i think LSPI is a thing for sure. incompatibilities between tech, oil and CAFE

 

[RyanY]

Hopefully walmart will clearance all of the older SP packages...

 

[ATex7239]

It's not a good deal but....

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If they would make 5 quart boxes or get the 5 quart jugs down to a competitive price point then I’d be all over some Havoline. All my vehicles take 4.xx quarts. I see no compelling reason to pay more per quart or deal with a left over quart every time compared to other options.

 

[facility1]

the pro-ds is also the new sq gf-7 out now, its a different formulation than the life-long.

 

[Zee09]

If they would make 5 quart boxes or get the 5 quart jugs down to a competitive price point then I’d be all over some Havoline. All my vehicles take 4.xx quarts. I see no compelling reason to pay more per quart or deal with a left over quart every time compared to other options.

I used to buy Chevron in the day but it's no deal today...

 

[walterjay]

All those great certs-specs and it's only a 10k oil while all the others are 20 to 25K although most won't ever go that far.

Maybe they are just being more honest

 

[Zee09]

Maybe they are just being more honest

Actually I called them years back and its on here. Their policy was their oil was good for the manufacturers recommended OCI.....