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Porsche is specific bcs. it has track testing on some approvals.
Other than that, nothing special.
Other than that, nothing special.
Hardest Spec to Meet?
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when a lubricant manufacture tests their oil to and above specs by how much of a margin of SP,gf-6 dexo-3 ,MB 229.5 etc,,but not published to the common public,the brief specs they make available is only so much of proof,as the consistancy of the product is dictated by cost of license and field testing the specific oil to a end standard of unknown price
The toughest one is unquestionably the sniff test.
If you were around back in the GC days, you know it smelled like Gummy Bears. That's the gold standard, right there. Fight me if you think I'm wrong.
If you were around back in the GC days, you know it smelled like Gummy Bears. That's the gold standard, right there. Fight me if you think I'm wrong.
Thought it was the gravity races.
Redline and 300V both smell sweet
In here for another "best oil" battle.
Keeps it entertaining lol
But just telling someone hey buddy why don’t you just fish isn’t very helpful either kind of like hey use the search feature
Any new And pertinent information on a better or newer specification or classification?
Especially for a 5.0L Coyote GEN three engine that is tracked/road course and daily driven.
I’m leaning towards Mobil 1 5W-50 SUPERCAR, due to cost and quality. $58 for 6 qts.
Amalie 5W-50 $69 for 12qts is what I have used and sent to OIL ANALYZERS
The way I understand the oil sheared down to a 40 weight.
It is still far better than the 0w20 or 0w30 blended Motorcraft oil the manufacturer puts in. Blended engine oil is approximately 90% conventional.
My experience with the Lab was not good. The information seems convoluted to me. When I called and talked to them, the female I talk to on the phone refused to give me any kind of recommendation as far as should I run that oil for a shorter period of time or how much longer could I run the oil. Then when I ask her point-blank what viscosity it tested at she was all over the place. She said it tested anywhere between a 30 and I 40 weight on the high end. The winter weight. It tested anywhere between 5 and 15.
So I cannot recommend Lab analyzers! I would suggest maybe: Blackstone or possibly Intertek automotive research lab or possibly Oilcheck, Speediagmnostix which is what Lake Speed jr. is affiliated with.
My impression if an oil meets: Dexos R, Porsche A40 or Mercedes-Benz MB 229.5 or MB229.51/52 or .72 it’s a good oil.
Each time I change my oil it’s 10 quarts and oil filter. I change my oil every time before I go to the track. So often oil changes.
Thank you.
Especially for a 5.0L Coyote GEN three engine that is tracked/road course and daily driven.
I’m leaning towards Mobil 1 5W-50 SUPERCAR, due to cost and quality. $58 for 6 qts.
Amalie 5W-50 $69 for 12qts is what I have used and sent to OIL ANALYZERS
The way I understand the oil sheared down to a 40 weight.
It is still far better than the 0w20 or 0w30 blended Motorcraft oil the manufacturer puts in. Blended engine oil is approximately 90% conventional.
My experience with the Lab was not good. The information seems convoluted to me. When I called and talked to them, the female I talk to on the phone refused to give me any kind of recommendation as far as should I run that oil for a shorter period of time or how much longer could I run the oil. Then when I ask her point-blank what viscosity it tested at she was all over the place. She said it tested anywhere between a 30 and I 40 weight on the high end. The winter weight. It tested anywhere between 5 and 15.
So I cannot recommend Lab analyzers! I would suggest maybe: Blackstone or possibly Intertek automotive research lab or possibly Oilcheck, Speediagmnostix which is what Lake Speed jr. is affiliated with.
My impression if an oil meets: Dexos R, Porsche A40 or Mercedes-Benz MB 229.5 or MB229.51/52 or .72 it’s a good oil.
Each time I change my oil it’s 10 quarts and oil filter. I change my oil every time before I go to the track. So often oil changes.
Thank you.
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I do not chime in on these much but occasionally so...
Like some here I look for results not specifications. I do not look at TBN as I do not use extended intervals. I prefer specifications that are kinder to my catalytic converters. Lower volatility and higher flash points are good. I go with the thinnest oils to give me more BHP and fuel economy. I have used hundreds of oil tests using paper, oil filter tear downs, lab analysis of used oil and visual internal inspections. I have not used internal measurments as doing so in a useful way is too difficult. As such I have my favorite brands as Renewable Lubricants Inc. and Red Line as examples. They generally advertise no big list of "approvals" yet do the job for me.
'Just to say that you should not limit yourself. Sure, look into what you may want to use but this or that "certification" may not be the only or best answer.
ali
PS: Let me add that almost all my cars have/had 600-800 BHP. I like high RPM and do a lot of short but full power accelerations. No track events any more though.
Like some here I look for results not specifications. I do not look at TBN as I do not use extended intervals. I prefer specifications that are kinder to my catalytic converters. Lower volatility and higher flash points are good. I go with the thinnest oils to give me more BHP and fuel economy. I have used hundreds of oil tests using paper, oil filter tear downs, lab analysis of used oil and visual internal inspections. I have not used internal measurments as doing so in a useful way is too difficult. As such I have my favorite brands as Renewable Lubricants Inc. and Red Line as examples. They generally advertise no big list of "approvals" yet do the job for me.
'Just to say that you should not limit yourself. Sure, look into what you may want to use but this or that "certification" may not be the only or best answer.
ali
PS: Let me add that almost all my cars have/had 600-800 BHP. I like high RPM and do a lot of short but full power accelerations. No track events any more though.
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i'm not very smart but if i had to choose an over the counter oil to meet the toughest specs in my mind i would always go with: Mobil 1 Euro 0W-40
since i'm on the extreme left on the Bell Curve in terms of IQ somewhere in between 60-65, i enjoy buying HPL NO VII oils or any flavor Signature Series Amsoil, but that's just me, a dummy
since i'm on the extreme left on the Bell Curve in terms of IQ somewhere in between 60-65, i enjoy buying HPL NO VII oils or any flavor Signature Series Amsoil, but that's just me, a dummy
Just a friendly remind that just because the oil meets a specification does not mean it will run clean or keep a engine clean.
Taken off the back of one of my Engine Clean 30 by @High Performance Lubricants
Taken off the back of one of my Engine Clean 30 by @High Performance Lubricants
I am surprised in the ignorance on the comments here.
Sure MB xxx.x or porsche A40 or C40, or GM dexos whatever are important specs, but there is one spec that is extremely hard , if possible, to meet.
Its called:
BiTOG
I am yet to see any oil that got this spec. I have a sense some oil barely made it for certain applications (Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, Valvoline Restore and Protect), but no oil has managed to get that approval
Sure MB xxx.x or porsche A40 or C40, or GM dexos whatever are important specs, but there is one spec that is extremely hard , if possible, to meet.
Its called:
BiTOG
I am yet to see any oil that got this spec. I have a sense some oil barely made it for certain applications (Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, Valvoline Restore and Protect), but no oil has managed to get that approval
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That Oil meets MB 229.5,A40 and DexosR. It's a solid choice no doubt and what I run in my G37 which gets redlined daily.