Handicapped or entitled? Not returning shopping cart

[SOUNDMAN5000]

I make a point to return carts however I have one local Food Lion with a huge parking lot and for what ever reason put its only set of car returns only a few spaces from the front door, NOT in the middle or toward the rear of the lot as all other stores do. Its just as easy to return the cart inside the store and is VERY inconvenient.
I also have a issue with my local Walmart now taking up so many close parking spots for online pickup and except during Christmas and seldom then do I ever see more than a few cars parked, such a wast of space and is upsetting when i'm now forced to park in the rear of a large parking lot as its a busy Walmart in a tourist area.

I'm getting older and not officially disabled ( perhaps should be ) but only a few years back I would always park far away and walk as I don't like door dings but now as I kinda struggle I see things with a different eye,

If a customer pulls up to Walmart for a online order, he sits in his car, the Walmart employees walk out to the cars, why not make the employee walk to the rear of the parking lot and allow me to park close?

Same with the Food Lion as I can only assume the cart returns were placed close to make it easy for the cart return employees and even so, many times the lot cart return is full and no carts are in the store...

Again, I return my carts but on bad pain days I do think it sure would be easer for a young employee cart return guy getting paid to get carts to get my cart from the rear of the parking lot that I am now forced to park is as I choose not to buy online for pickup.

 

[PandaBear]

Why can't a person work their butt off their whole life, retire for whatever circumstances and become disabled but still purchase something nice with the money they earned?.

Don't get me wrong there is still people who park in handicap spots who don't have the placard to begin with but owning a corvette doesn't mean you aren't disabled.

Technically you can do that. However human has a tendency that policy to help the weak are for supporting the weak instead of enjoyed by the capable. It is one thing to encourage society productivity growth by incentivize hard work but it is another to see people abuse handicap parking.

It is as distasteful as giving tax credit to buy a Mercedes EV that cost $100k when the original goal sold to voters was to help making a $40k EV more affordable to compete with a $30k EV.

I personally has grown immune to this on both sides but I can understand how people get offended by it. Our school district has been giving out Summer EBT to everyone because we had a surplus but imagine giving EBT to a family with $900k AGI on 1040 last year and $600k average. This may make people upset if they don't get it in another neighborhood with $200k AGI.

 

[dogememe]

I may be the ONLY ONE in North America who does this: As I walk into the store I grab one of the dozens of carts in the parking lot and use it in the store. I see scads of folks walking right past them. Maybe the same folks who abandon them in a space on the way out.

If most grabbed one from the lot on the way IN…there wouldn’t be carts scattered all over the place. But no one does, and you need to tell me why.

Hmm, why have I never thought of this? Plus then I can "test" it - if it rolls well I can use it in the store, if it doesn't, I can put it in a cart return on the way in and grab a better one haha.

 

[Hall]

I also have a issue with my local Walmart now taking up so many close parking spots for online pickup and except during Christmas and seldom then do I ever see more than a few cars parked, such a wast of space

Two of the nearby Walmarts where we've done online pick-ups have the parking area on the 'side' of the store, completely separate from the main parking lot.

 

[4wd]

Sitting in a parking spot at TJ Maxx is Castle Rock, CO.

Just watching the parking lot as wife is inside the store shopping. A person just walked a cart with goods to their vehicle, in a handicap parking spot. Person unloaded the cart, left at next to the handicap parking spot, and drive off. Seconds later the cart entered the handicap spot.

I moved the cart from the handicap spot to the store entrance. If someone truly needs that spot, they can park.

So the question us- was the person with the cart handicap, or entitled?

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[SC Maintenance]

I make a point to return carts however I have one local Food Lion with a huge parking lot and for what ever reason put its only set of car returns only a few spaces from the front door, NOT in the middle or toward the rear of the lot as all other stores do. Its just as easy to return the cart inside the store and is VERY inconvenient.
I also have a issue with my local Walmart now taking up so many close parking spots for online pickup and except during Christmas and seldom then do I ever see more than a few cars parked, such a wast of space and is upsetting when i'm now forced to park in the rear of a large parking lot as its a busy Walmart in a tourist area.

I'm getting older and not officially disabled ( perhaps should be ) but only a few years back I would always park far away and walk as I don't like door dings but now as I kinda struggle I see things with a different eye,

If a customer pulls up to Walmart for a online order, he sits in his car, the Walmart employees walk out to the cars, why not make the employee walk to the rear of the parking lot and allow me to park close?

Same with the Food Lion as I can only assume the cart returns were placed close to make it easy for the cart return employees and even so, many times the lot cart return is full and no carts are in the store...

Again, I return my carts but on bad pain days I do think it sure would be easer for a young employee cart return guy getting paid to get carts to get my cart from the rear of the parking lot that I am now forced to park is as I choose not to buy online for pickup.

Go at 7:00 AM. You will have the place to yourself.

 

[Huskyguy68]

I may be the ONLY ONE in North America who does this: As I walk into the store I grab one of the dozens of carts in the parking lot and use it in the store. I see scads of folks walking right past them. Maybe the same folks who abandon them in a space on the way out.

If most grabbed one from the lot on the way IN…there wouldn’t be carts scattered all over the place. But no one does, and you need to tell me why.

Where i live there are No Free shopping carts in the parking lot to grab and go.
Too many homeless people wandering off with expensive shopping carts made two things happen.
1. You have to insert a one dollar coin in the handle, get it back when you return the cart and rechain it to the next one.
2. Some supermarkets have an anti theft device on the cart. The wheels lock up if you go past the parking lot perimeter.
Might luck and maybe find a free cart, most likely something wrong with it. Like wonky wheels or it makes a noisy racket when pushed.
Them shopping carts can be very expensive for the store to replace with a new one.

I used to read in the newspapers how bad the cart theft situation was.
Even recall seeing pick up trucks with the bed full of reclaimed shopping carts, my guess is the truck drivers had store contracts to go find and return them.

But ever since the One dollar coin insert/security chain and/or the anti theft device, rarely see a shopping cart far from it's intended location.

 

[JavierH19]

Have you seen the demographic that has those handicapped stickers but can walk fine? And still use motorcarts out of laziness. Have you noted any I don't know defining characteristics of their appearance which you could form a pattern with. It's safe to say they're the entitled kind.

 

[Hall]

Have you seen the demographic that has those handicapped stickers but can walk fine?

My Mom has a handicap placard. You can assume all you want and still be wrong....

 

[MrBubba]

Have you seen the demographic that has those handicapped stickers but can walk fine? And still use motorcarts out of laziness. Have you noted any I don't know defining characteristics of their appearance which you could form a pattern with. It's safe to say they're the entitled kind.

It's safe to say you don't know their medical history, you don't know what medical conditions they have you just expect it to be visual when it may not.

So basically you are forming this pattern out of ignorance.

States don't just hand out placards, they are signed off by medical professionals before hand, you know someone who actually does know the medical conditions the person has and doesn't judge based on appearance but instead signs off on it based on facts.

 

[GSCJR]

In SoFlo, as my FIL was returning his cart, the WM neighbourhood market employee responsible for doing exactly that, asked him not to. "You're taking away my job" he said, or something to that effect.

 

[GSCJR]

States don't just hand out placards, they are signed off by medical professionals before hand, you know someone who actually does know the medical conditions the person has and doesn't judge based on appearance but instead signs off on it based on facts.

There's a lot of fraud when it comes to parking permits in our area with handicapped spots.

 

[walterjay]

Have you seen the demographic that has those handicapped stickers but can walk fine? And still use motorcarts out of laziness. Have you noted any I don't know defining characteristics of their appearance which you could form a pattern with. It's safe to say they're the entitled kind.

I had a family member who needed a hip replacement. She could walk just fine to start out with. But after walking and doing shopping she would be in a lot of pain. So somebody may be walking real good to start but end up in trouble.

This is why some people use the handicap spot and motorcart. They are not necessarily lazy, just protecting themselves.

 

[SOUNDMAN5000]

Have you seen the demographic that has those handicapped stickers but can walk fine? And still use motorcarts out of laziness. Have you noted any I don't know defining characteristics of their appearance which you could form a pattern with. It's safe to say they're the entitled kind.

My now 24 year old daughter was born with club foot so severe her feet were backwards! At day 7 after her birth we started her long journey of 5 hour round trips for casting after casting and surgery after surgery, so many I have lost count. The good news is God is Good and she can walk, when she started school the State suggested we go ahead and claim her as disabled so she and we would have resources we desperately needed but after much debate her mom Doctor and I decided we did not want to limit her but we were free to do so as she would have qualified and her teachers and school all but pushed it but we pushed back.

My daughter has lived with so much constant pain I had so many nights of her simply crying but she always pushed through...

I'm so proud of my girl, she is a full load Senior in College with a perfect 4.0, she works full time at the mall and also Student Teaches and is on track to Graduate with Honors and become a Special Needs Teacher and will start her Masters classes online on top of her full load this Summer. She seldom ever gets a day off.

My daughters feet will swell every day, IF you could see her foot one would understand but with shoes on she looks normal. if she has said "my feet hurt " once this month its been a hundred... My daughter can only walk slow so she had to get special permission at School as she at times can't make it to class on time if the parking lot is full.

Last year she received her Handicap Tag... She being able to park close made the difference of her being able to work, it would be easy for her to say I can't work but thats not her.

She and I had lunch this week, I was her passenger and we parked in front in the handicapped spot and I had the thought, I wonder how many folks look at this young 24 year old and think she walks fine, whats wrong with her why is SHE parking in that spot...

 

[GrumpyCat]

Here is what I think, handicap spot = people with disability you have to meet certain medical criteria to get it so these people are not faking it plain and simple if they have a handicap placard.

These stores should provide a cart corral within the handicap areas.

Yes, a prescription is required for a handicapped parking pass.

But the question is whether the person using the privilege is the one who qualified for the pass? I think this is widely abused. If you can push a cart though the grocery store you don’t need a close parking space.

 

[JavierH19]

My now 24 year old daughter was born with club foot so severe her feet were backwards! At day 7 after her birth we started her long journey of 5 hour round trips for casting after casting and surgery after surgery, so many I have lost count. The good news is God is Good and she can walk, when she started school the State suggested we go ahead and claim her as disabled so she and we would have resources we desperately needed but after much debate her mom Doctor and I decided we did not want to limit her but we were free to do so as she would have qualified and her teachers and school all but pushed it but we pushed back.

My daughter has lived with so much constant pain I had so many nights of her simply crying but she always pushed through...

I'm so proud of my girl, she is a full load Senior in College with a perfect 4.0, she works full time at the mall and also Student Teaches and is on track to Graduate with Honors and become a Special Needs Teacher and will start her Masters classes online on top of her full load this Summer. She seldom ever gets a day off.

My daughters feet will swell every day, IF you could see her foot one would understand but with shoes on she looks normal. if she has said "my feet hurt " once this month its been a hundred... My daughter can only walk slow so she had to get special permission at School as she at times can't make it to class on time if the parking lot is full.

Last year she received her Handicap Tag... She being able to park close made the difference of her being able to work, it would be easy for her to say I can't work but thats not her.

She and I had lunch this week, I was her passenger and we parked in front in the handicapped spot and I had the thought, I wonder how many folks look at this young 24 year old and think she walks fine, whats wrong with her why is SHE parking in that spot...

Why do some of you misunderstand me. Of course I don't have an issue with real handicapped people using the handicap spot. If I'm at the store and I see disabled person trying to load their car, I stop what I'm doing and I ask if they would like my help. I live in Houston so the population isn't great here especially since after Katrina where it got worse. I see a particular group use the handicap spot when they are perfectly able-bodied with some of them look like 20 to 30 year old muscular and fit men not just use that spot but also get into the Walmart scooter with their muscular arms and legs looking like they could compete in college track just being bothersome riding around only to have chips and soda in their scooter cart.

 

[The_Jeff]

In SoFlo, as my FIL was returning his cart, the WM neighbourhood market employee responsible for doing exactly that, asked him not to. "You're taking away my job" he said, or something to that effect.

I had to use a mart cart for a few weeks when I was on crutches. I also had a 90 day "temporary" handi placard while my ankle healed.

Had to use the mart cart because you can't push a shopping cart while using crutches, as your hands are on the crutches. What a sucky way to shop! I wouldn't wish it on anyone. First off, the cart didn't have anywhere to put the crutches so I laid them flat across the wire basket and basically was a little rowboat in shape, taking all kinds of room up in the narrow aisles.

Then when it comes to loading my car, options were few. I wound up parking the mart cart inside the store, then grabbing my shopping bags with my fingertips while using my crutches to get to my car. I "split the order" once as I had too much, leaving half of it in the cart for a minute while I shlepped the first half to the car, and a kind stranger took the other half to me, calling "sir, sir, you forgot this." Thanks again, they weren't forgotten, just logistically impossible.

I also got stares from others who seemed annoyed that I took the only running, charged, mart cart and still appeared physically fit. Get up earlier then, I was out of work on worker's comp but still rolled out of bed on time, what's your excuse?

 

[fantastic]

The only one I hear complaining is OP. I'd rather hear managements position at TJ Maxx. This simply is probably, most likely nothing to write home about. While it may be a slight annoyance for some of us..just grab the cart & put it where you want to satisfy said annoyance.

 

[GON]

The only one I hear complaining is OP. I'd rather hear managements position at TJ Maxx. This simply is probably, most likely nothing to write home about. While it may be a slight annoyance for some of us..just grab the cart & put it where you want to satisfy said annoyance.

Not sure it was a complaint. Aligns with an observation.

The issue is, leaving a cart to roll into the handicap stall, truly hinders a person in need of the spot from seamlessly parking. The truly movement challenged person can't use the spot, without parking in a lane of traffic, exiting the vehicle, moving the cart out of the parking spot, getting back in their vehicle, parking the vehicle into the parking spot, etc

And if the person is a wheelchair bound driver with a wheelchair lift, the cart in the spot really makes things worse.

@fantastic, might you lack empathy for truly physically disabled people?

 

[fantastic]

Not sure it was a complaint. Aligns with an observation.

The issue is, leaving a cart to roll into the handicap stall, truly hinders a person in need of the spot from seamlessly parking. The truly movement challenged person can't use the spot, without parking in a lane of traffic, exiting the vehicle, moving the cart out of the parking spot, getting back in their vehicle, parking the vehicle into the parking spot, etc

And if the person is a wheelchair bound driver with a wheelchair lift, the cart in the spot really makes things worse.

@fantastic, might you lack empathy for truly physically disabled people?

Thanks for your reply.

I do not lack empathy, my wife is disabled so I understand completely. I understand better of your main point and I agree with you. To your point I've made a point to get the cart back to the cart holder area or have our kids do it for many years now.

Once in a while I'll leave a cart but I always try to push it against a light pole or something in the lot to help prevent it's movement. Folks may not have even the remote inclination to even think about it as we hear about in your post. My position is to at least put it up against something solid. Now that being said I've only seen a wild cart racing down the parking lot a handful of times in my lifetime and gringed Everytime wondering what it was going to hit.

This cart rolling into the disabled parking lot seems to be an inconvenience for the disabled wanting to pull in but I don't think anyone would lose sleep over it. Most likely try to find another spot to park. There are disabled folks that use other parking too so some have that option. Perhaps the guy doing this was disabled. Obviously no one can judge someone "by the look of it". My wife doesn't look like it either but the X-rays show her pretzel spine and other issues on the inside that limit her walking length without stopping.

We don't know this person situation so I simply can't say too much about it.

Two sides to the story and all ...