Handicapped or entitled? Not returning shopping cart

[GON]

Interesting twist on the leaving of carts. I'm one of those that will round up loose carts around where people leave them. Good exercise. However, at the local Walmart Neighborhood Market that I frequent, I saw a woman leaving the cart next to her handicapped parking space and offered to take it back into the store. She thanked me, but said she leaves it for other handicapped folks so they have something to hold on to as they go into the store. Evidently it is an expected practice as I've seen the cart "exchange" happen on several occasions afterwards. I now leave the ones near handicapped spaces alone. There are plenty more throughout the lot for me to chase down.

Interesting comment- thanks for posting.

OTOH- recently read an article of someone getting caught regularly throwing bags of trash over a small overpass onto a dry riverbed in Southern Arizona. When questioned, the subject stated "he was throwing the trash for potential migrants after crossing into the USA, as there may be things in the trash, they might find beneficial.

 

[02SE]

You are assuming all qualifying disabilities involve getting in and out of a vehicle? ever hear of heart conditions, COPD, in many states conditions that cause you to stop and rest within 200 feet qualify.

I think they should drive whatever they feel like driving that they are able to drive instead not what you or anyone else thinks they should drive. Also ask yourself how old is that corvette in the picture you provided, and then ask yourself is it possible that the person bought and paid for that corvette prior to becoming disabled and even if they bought it after being disabled oh well that is their money not yours it doesn't all of a sudden lessen their disability of which a doctor agrees they have.

I'm certainly no Corvette guru, but that C6 ZR1 could be as old as 2009.

 

[dishdude]

Just back from Aldi, you put a quarter in to get a cart and have to return the cart to the front of the store in order to get your quarter back. Not one cart out of place, problem solved. As long as you know the quirks of Aldi, it's a great store to shop at and efficiently run.

 

[GON]

Just back from Aldi, you put a quarter in to get a cart and have to return the cart to the front of the store in order to get your quarter back. Not one cart out of place, problem solved. As long as you know the quirks of Aldi, it's a great store to shop at and efficiently run.

I found Aldi a very improved grocery store from when I first shopped Aldi in the 1990s.

Today's Aldi has numerous better-quality foods than many of the major grocery chains. Very easy to get in, shop, and depart Aldi.

Thumbs up for Aldi!

 

[Kestas]

BTW in my opinion there should be more required handicap parking spaces available. At my WalMart there are probably about maybe 15 handicap places. Out of hundreds of cars there I see people with handicap tags and stickers having to park far from the entrance.

That's strange. Civil engineers have guidelines as to how many handicap spaces should be minimally alloted according to parking lot size.

 

[dishdude]

I found Aldi a very improved grocery store from when I first shopped Aldi in the 1990s.

Today's Aldi has numerous better-quality foods than many of the major grocery chains. Very easy to get in, shop, ad depart Aldi.

Thumbs up for Aldi!

Aldi is great! The quality of their products is excellent, the pricing is great. The store is super easy to navigate, checkout is efficient. I was surprised to see an Amex offer on my platinum card for 15% off, but I happily used it!

 

[Allaned]

Are individuals diagnosed with PTSD disabled, and if so does PTSD diagnosis qualify for handicap parking?

I’m not a psychiatrist but don’t think that is what most people believe is physically disabled.

 

[GON]

I’m not a psychiatrist but don’t think that is what most people believe is physically disabled.

It is a question I didn't know.

A google search clearly implied PTSD didn't qualify for handicap parking.

Did find these interesting posts on the subject of PTSD and handicap parking:

Has anyone ever gotten a handicap parking placard for psych disability?​

I have PTSD. My school doesn’t have enough parking for students and that causes me intense panic and flashbacks (I’ve had some parking related accidents in the past that have led to disciplinary action in school). I was wondering if you think this would be a sufficient reason to pursue a handicap parking placard? If so how would I go about that? I have a therapist but not a psychiatrist.

Okay, and what if I have a psychological disorder that makes me feint or stressed/anxious to that point I am ENTIRELY incapacitated or at risk of serious medical injury, would I be eligible?

I know this is an old post but yes , you can get it for mental disabilities including PTSD and bipolar.

 

[slo town]

I may be the ONLY ONE in North America who does this: As I walk into the store I grab one of the dozens of carts in the parking lot and use it in the store. I see scads of folks walking right past them. Maybe the same folks who abandon them in a space on the way out.

If most grabbed one from the lot on the way IN…there wouldn’t be carts scattered all over the place. But no one does, and you need to tell me why.

I do the same thing. Good on us.

Scott

 

[D60]

Just back from Aldi, you put a quarter in to get a cart and have to return the cart to the front of the store in order to get your quarter back. Not one cart out of place, problem solved. As long as you know the quirks of Aldi, it's a great store to shop at and efficiently run.

So can I toss the cart in my truck bed? It's like rent-a-tool at AutoZone, right? No tool return = they keep your deposit?

ANYWAY, I agree on the Vette thing. I found the '98 Sexy Sunfire and my neighbor's 2000 Cavalier annoying because they're so low. No way I'd choose a Vette which basically sits you directly on the road if I had a physical disability.

That said, no law says being disabled causes one to appreciate practicality.

 

[SC Maintenance]

That's strange. Civil engineers have guidelines as to how many handicap spaces should be minimally alloted according to parking lot size.

Unfortunately - not really. Its controlled by the ADA - a law, and its based purely on how many spaces you have overall. It works out to roughly 2%, the exception being if you have less than 25 you still need 1.

I have no idea how this number was calculated. It does seem reasonable. However it also seems like many places have a lot more Doesn't bother me at all - I park in the back, but between handicap and the online pick up seems like the front half of the parking lot is restricted.

 

[Leo99]

Sometimes I drive my in-laws places and they have a handicap placard. I don't use it because I figure someone that is handicapped might be driving themselves and need the handicap spot. I drop the in-laws off and go park elsewhere. My kids watch a YT video dedicated to harassing able-bodied folks that forgo returning the cart to the corral.

 

[02SE]

Sometimes I drive my in-laws places and they have a handicap placard. I don't use it because I figure someone that is handicapped might be driving themselves and need the handicap spot. I drop the in-laws off and go park elsewhere. My kids watch a YT video dedicated to harassing able-bodied folks that forgo returning the cart to the corral.

That works for people who are able-bodied enough that you CAN just drop them off. If you have to push them in a wheelchair, or otherwise assist them, it's a different story.

If your kids put their Youtube viewing into action, they might want to first practice minding their own business, before they harass the wrong person. Lots of angry, unstable people out there, just looking for an excuse to lash out.

 

[MrBubba]

Are individuals diagnosed with PTSD disabled, and if so does PTSD diagnosis qualify for handicap parking?

PTSD is a recognized disability, whether it qualifies for a parking placard that depends on the state, some states may accept it, others may not.

Usually handicap placards are for those who are unable to walk 200 feet without having to rest, lung diseases such as COPD, heart conditions, amputations, requiring a cane, wheelchair, etc.

Not all disabilities qualify, obviously the people who have the placards do have a qualifying disability otherwise they would not have one.

 

[walterjay]

That's strange. Civil engineers have guidelines as to how many handicap spaces should be minimally alloted according to parking lot size.

Doesn't always seem to be the case. A local steakhouse took some handicap spaces and since covid now have them tagged for food pickup only.

Also 2% allocation seems a bit low nowadays. The guidelines should be updated with an aging population. And in WM there are definately more than 2% of the people having trouble getting around.

 

[BHopkins]

Interesting twist on the leaving of carts. I'm one of those that will round up loose carts around where people leave them. Good exercise. However, at the local Walmart Neighborhood Market that I frequent, I saw a woman leaving the cart next to her handicapped parking space and offered to take it back into the store. She thanked me, but said she leaves it for other handicapped folks so they have something to hold on to as they go into the store. Evidently it is an expected practice as I've seen the cart "exchange" happen on several occasions afterwards. I now leave the ones near handicapped spaces alone. There are plenty more throughout the lot for me to chase down.

That makes perfect sense. My wife depends upon holding on to a cart, when she can't get a motorized cart.

 

[Leo99]

Doesn't always seem to be the case. A local steakhouse took some handicap spaces and since covid now have them tagged for food pickup only.

Also 2% allocation seems a bit low nowadays. The guidelines should be updated with an aging population. And in WM there are definately more than 2% of the people having trouble getting around.

My in-laws have stopped driving. But when they did drive, they'd often encounter full handicap spots.

 

[Hall]

If they need a handicapped placard I'd think they would drive something a little easier to get in and out of.

You can think that, but it's none of your business....

 

[Hall]

That's strange. Civil engineers have guidelines as to how many handicap spaces should be minimally alloted according to parking lot size.

Already mentioned, but I'll repeat it - it's not guidelines, it's federal law (the ADA). Cities, states, etc can impose MORE spaces too.

Usually handicap placards are for those who are unable to walk 200 feet without having to rest, lung diseases such as COPD, heart conditions, amputations, requiring a cane, wheelchair, etc.

Yeap and many conditions that qualify are invisible to others, yet it doesn't stop them from judging.

Doesn't always seem to be the case. A local steakhouse took some handicap spaces and since covid now have them tagged for food pickup only.

That definitely seems to be a thing.... I'd bet that during Covid, local management took it upon themselves to re-allocate spaces for food pick-up with no understanding or consideration of the requirements under the ADA. Who do you report violations to though ?

 

[dishdude]

You can think that, but it's none of your business....

Which is why I didn't confront them in the parking lot. You do realize this is a discussion board, right?