Greetings... And a Pennzoil Question

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Originally Posted By: S2500Dog
Actually Johnny, I went to O' Reilly several days ago and purchase a bottle of Gumout Regane All-In-One. When I read all the information on the back of the bottle, it said made, blended and distributed by SOPUS Houston, Texas.
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The SOPUS HQ is indeed in Houston. That doesn't mean that the product is actually created there. The company's tentacles extend far, far beyond Houston...
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Originally Posted By: Manny_Ramirez
The 4.3 is a tough engine! Dad has one and religiously changes at 3k oci's with PYB & Delco filter, and has had 3 trouble-free engines.


The 4.3 does have a positive reputation. In fact when I ordered the truck I ordered the 4.3 specifically because of the number we see at the dealership with high miles. Many of which are abused work-trucks.

Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Originally Posted By: S2500Dog
Actually Johnny, I went to O' Reilly several days ago and purchase a bottle of Gumout Regane All-In-One. When I read all the information on the back of the bottle, it said made, blended and distributed by SOPUS Houston, Texas.
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The SOPUS HQ is indeed in Houston. That doesn't mean that the product is actually created there. The company's tentacles extend far, far beyond Houston...
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Funny you mention that about the location of Shell, I work literally across the street from their huge refinery. They employ much of my hometown. So, their "tentacles" at least extend from down-town to my town.

Originally Posted By: revelation9985
I would just use PZ platinum or Ultra. How can you beat PZ platinum for $19.99 for a 5 QT jug at walmart? You have low miles & I see no problems changing to PZ platinum or Ultra for your vehicle. Just my 2 cents. I would just do PZ platinum oil with a purolator oil filter classic.
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Originally Posted By: apwillard1986
Thanks! My goal is longevity which is why I am agonizing. I guess its a point of pride. I want to take care of my vehicle as well as possible so it will last. I have seen high miles on conventional tho. I'm just curious about others experience as to how it will hold up under this type of service in terms of breakdown, startup flow, and cleanliness. I guess I am a product of the synthetic generation. Now that I am driving a bit less time may out pace miles in terms of aging the truck in reality. Still, this site exists because people agonize over what is best for their given circumstance.


The difference in price these days between PYB and PP isn`t that much. And the small difference in price is money well spent if it gives you piece of mind. I`m currently running dino (and always have), but after reading bitog for a few months (and doing more research elsewhere), I`ve decided that syns are a better fit for me and I already have the PP bought for my next oil change.

Even if you go to the syn route, I`d still change it out twice a year (November and April) - assuming you don`t put enough miles on it to justify more frequent changes under your current severe maintenance schedule.


I agree that the difference in price in somewhat negligible when weighed against the piece of mind synthetic offers. Also, PP is a deal considering what I have been spending on the M1 EP and filter every ~3000. LOL I think if those "oil police" mentioned where going to make an arrest they may have to start with me :).

Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
My commute is nearly identical and harsh.I follow the low cost dino sales but always use a pure one because for our application it's nearly the same price as fram xg.Cylinder wash /fuel dilution is our problem and there's no way no combat that except to change it more frequently.Even synth will become too fuel contaminated before long,so whats the point? I dont buy into the 'long drive to burn off fuel' ,it would cost me more in gas than a 5 qt jug from walmart (11.50)for any good dino on roll back.Someone will shoot holes in my theory ,I'm sure.


Interesting! I'm ashamed to admit I hadn't really thought about the fuel dilution, at least not directly, but that is a consideration as well. I need to study up on how all that works in general. I have spent so much time buried in oil specs. I recall seeing a chart, on the AMSoil site I believe, that listed Mobil 1 as having a very strong resistance to fuel dilution. Typical that I would discuss a concern full circle... Do synthetics generally have a higher tolerance for this? Or, will changing the oil every 3000 render this somewhat irrelevant no matter what I use? ...the mind reels
 
I find it fascinating how strong the emotional component of decision making can be.

Every once in a while a thread appears here with us experts bashing the common man for his beliefs about oil. Then, threads show up here like this one, and the use of "peace of mind" is the dominant denominator. To me, "peace of mind" usually indicates that the "lesser" product would work perfectly fine, but oh well, lets make the decision based on "feel good" parameters.

The only suggestion I have is to do a UOA on your current oil, then do one on the proposed oil to give you true "peace of mind".
I did extreme short trip winter driving for years, but UOA's never indicated fuel dilution problems....oh yea, I use PYB (under circumstances different than yours).

Good luck my OCD friend!
 
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
I find it fascinating how strong the emotional component of decision making can be.

Every once in a while a thread appears here with us experts bashing the common man for his beliefs about oil. Then, threads show up here like this one, and the use of "peace of mind" is the dominant denominator. To me, "peace of mind" usually indicates that the "lesser" product would work perfectly fine, but oh well, lets make the decision based on "feel good" parameters.

The only suggestion I have is to do a UOA on your current oil, then do one on the proposed oil to give you true "peace of mind".
I did extreme short trip winter driving for years, but UOA's never indicated fuel dilution problems....oh yea, I use PYB (under circumstances different than yours).

Good luck my OCD friend!

Trust me that is not lost on me. After so many months of reading and searching through the threads here "OCD Friendly" is likely a fair description of much of what is on the BITOG forums. In fact I am probably more OCD now that I have learned more. Ignorance is bliss after all. I take your point however. We get trucks traded in all the time in sales with high mileage that run great and the owner used whatever was on sale the weekend he decided it was time to change the oil.
 
Fuel dilution causes loss of viscosity. But your oil is never getting really thin unless your commute is more than 20 minutes long, and I doubt that it is if you only have to go 3 miles. Condensation that is not burned off may cause issues, so I would tend to go with cheap, thin oil and change more often.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
One of the benefits of the conventional is that you can change it more often for commutes like that without feeling bad.

I would, however, try to get it out on the highway for 20+ miles every few weeks regardless of oil choice, just to burn undesirables off...


Agree 100%.
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The highway trip would do more for the vehicle than prob anything else!

My "new to me" Truck sees super short trips and on 7-31 it will be 1 year old. Total miles? a little over 4000 for the whole year and that includes the over 100 mile commute that I make with it at least once a month. I know I'm spending quite a bit more in fuel over the Corolla but I really feel that a longer trip here and there is a good thing.

Twice a year old changes with conventional and filter is what I'm doing now that I have the vehicle the way I want it. The last UOA looked good!

Take care and
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PS: The 4.3l is a great motor! My 1996 has over 250k on it and this one has 122k. Both are excellent performing motors and LOVE the gas mileage for full size trucks!
 
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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
One of the benefits of the conventional is that you can change it more often for commutes like that without feeling bad.

I would, however, try to get it out on the highway for 20+ miles every few weeks regardless of oil choice, just to burn undesirables off...


Agree 100%.
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The highway trip would do more for the vehicle than prob anything else!

My "new to me" Truck sees super short trips and on 7-31 it will be 1 year old. Total miles? a little over 4000 for the whole year and that includes the over 100 mile commute that I make with it at least once a month. I know I'm spending quite a bit more in fuel over the Corolla but I really feel that a longer trip here and there is a good thing.

Twice a year old changes with conventional and filter is what I'm doing now that I have the vehicle the way I want it. The last UOA looked good!

Take care and
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PS: The 4.3l is a great motor! My 1996 has over 250k on it and this one has 122k. Both are excellent performing motors and LOVE the gas mileage for full size trucks!

Thanks! Particularly for the UOA! I may have to add chevron to the list of candidates, along with MC5K. It seems at least for the moment no matter what I choose ill be in good company.
The fuel economy is pretty darn amazing considering the size of the truck and it will get out of its own way. I have gotten 24.7 on a road trip before. All cast iron, no VVT or OHC... Lol gotta love the old chevy small blocks! Its a 50+ year design and holds its own even now.
 
i cant imagine olm is anywhere near 0% .... i know of a camry that has had maybe 10 oil changes in its life plus it burns oil and owner doesnt care so i am sure you could go a lot longer than the old 3 k oci...at least 6k
 
i would love to tour a shell motor oil plant...more reason to buy pennzoil, it helps local economy and is great oil anyways
 
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