Are you sure he didnt have some other OCI in there and they didnt put up a new sticker? With that many miles on Pennzoil conventional, it would be sludge galore on the dipstick. Either way, no matter what you do it wont be enough for that engine...
Good cleaning oil.
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I would do a 3K interval with either Pennzoil Conventional or Mobil Super and reevaluate based on what my eyes see down the filler and the oil drained to see the progress before using MMO or any other cleaning fluid.
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Family or not. With his current attitude, I would be careful helping him out. It is obvious he is not worried at all about the maintenance of his vehicle. So how can he learn?
Not to mention, you may get blamed for any breakdowns after working on the vehicle. Sometimes it is best to let people learn the hard way when they don't have the correct attitude.
If he reacted with shock and asked you to help him out. Give him all the help he can stand. If you have to force him to do it. You are wasting your time.
Not to mention, you may get blamed for any breakdowns after working on the vehicle. Sometimes it is best to let people learn the hard way when they don't have the correct attitude.
If he reacted with shock and asked you to help him out. Give him all the help he can stand. If you have to force him to do it. You are wasting your time.
Don't touch it. There is probably damage already done and you will get blamed for "ruining" his car. Don't worry he will blow the engine no matter what you do. You can't fix stupid.
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Originally Posted By: RowdyYates
I have a nephew who is a full time college student and works part time. We had a recent family get together. I asked him if I could check the oil on his Hyundai Sonata because I know he does not do regular oil changes. I looked at the sticker in the window from Wal Mart and he is over 27,000 miles on Pennzoil conventional. It made me sick. He is only about a quart low. There is heavy varnish buildup as I looked down through the filler cap. Made me sick. My sister(his mother) gave him the car to help him out at college. Good kid just no mechanical sense.
What is a good oil to clean up this engine? Pennzoil conventional. Mobil 5000?
I would use any conventional oil with high contamination holding oil filter such as Purolator Pure1 for 1k miles, then 2k miles, then 3k miles and normal OCI of 5-6k miles with conventional. With the way he treats his car, synthetic is better.
Tell him to read the owner manual, especially the maintenance section and follow the manufacture maintenance schedule, no more and especially no less.
I have a nephew who is a full time college student and works part time. We had a recent family get together. I asked him if I could check the oil on his Hyundai Sonata because I know he does not do regular oil changes. I looked at the sticker in the window from Wal Mart and he is over 27,000 miles on Pennzoil conventional. It made me sick. He is only about a quart low. There is heavy varnish buildup as I looked down through the filler cap. Made me sick. My sister(his mother) gave him the car to help him out at college. Good kid just no mechanical sense.
What is a good oil to clean up this engine? Pennzoil conventional. Mobil 5000?
I would use any conventional oil with high contamination holding oil filter such as Purolator Pure1 for 1k miles, then 2k miles, then 3k miles and normal OCI of 5-6k miles with conventional. With the way he treats his car, synthetic is better.
Tell him to read the owner manual, especially the maintenance section and follow the manufacture maintenance schedule, no more and especially no less.
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Slap this boy and make him respect the gift he was given.
While you chant change your oil about 10 times per slap! He needs to learn to properly care for his car, or get to walk everywhere he goes! Typical young guy these days...and thanks for making me ill too!!
Slap this boy and make him respect the gift he was given.
While you chant change your oil about 10 times per slap! He needs to learn to properly care for his car, or get to walk everywhere he goes! Typical young guy these days...and thanks for making me ill too!!
One thing I learned at college is that real everyday common sense is earned. It has nothing to do with a shiny piece of paper that has your name on it...
Offer your wisdom but in the end, let him learn whatever way he chooses; dont touch the car.
Offer your wisdom but in the end, let him learn whatever way he chooses; dont touch the car.
what kind of oil filter can handle that?
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
Oooo. We'll also be needing a used oil analysis and filter autopsy.
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
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Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
Now we are getting somewhere.
Obviously explaining it simply to this particular vehicles owner doesn't work so maybe if we explain it in an extremely complicated manner maybe this future dr will catch on.
I know that if I knew mr dr was to (insert applicable word) to remember an oil change I don't think I would be seeing him anymore.
Could be how instruments get forgotten in people's bodies.
Maybe?
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
Now we are getting somewhere.
Obviously explaining it simply to this particular vehicles owner doesn't work so maybe if we explain it in an extremely complicated manner maybe this future dr will catch on.
I know that if I knew mr dr was to (insert applicable word) to remember an oil change I don't think I would be seeing him anymore.
Could be how instruments get forgotten in people's bodies.
Maybe?
Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
If that's the case, which is true and a great analogy, there are a lot of members on this forum with bad kidneys!
One filter, One OCI!
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...can't think of one off hand, but there has to be a good one. ( cholesterol build up in the arteries maybe??)
auto/electronics/misc. repair/maintenence, it's the same skill set as medicine, you just have to know how your "patient" works, and how a effects b, effects c... etc.
Changing oil is similar to a bathroom break. The engine oil collects impurities that need expelled similar to eating/drinking etc.
Maybe.
the oil filer is like the kidneys, filtering impurities, and contaminants from the blood. by not changing the filter often enough, he has the enigine in early renal failure. it needs an "kidney transplant" ie: filter change, and a transfusion of Fresh blood , ie: new oil. needs to do them more often than normal for a bit ie: Dialysis treatments
If that's the case, which is true and a great analogy, there are a lot of members on this forum with bad kidneys!
One filter, One OCI!
Originally Posted By: earlyre
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...
Good idea, though "prevention" is a foreign concept to doctors. Doctors don't tell you how to prevent cancers use nutrition to maintain health. They wait for things to fail and then 'treat' the condition. Maybe he just needs to spin a bearing or cook a piston ring and spend the rest of the engine's life "treating it" with very expensive treatments, like synthetic High Mileage oil and oil consumption additives. He'll feel right at home with a chronically sick patient that is made totally dependent on his services eh?
you say he's studying to become a doctor? Find a good medical analogy to oil changes, what he's doing to the engine by NOT changing regularly,...
Good idea, though "prevention" is a foreign concept to doctors. Doctors don't tell you how to prevent cancers use nutrition to maintain health. They wait for things to fail and then 'treat' the condition. Maybe he just needs to spin a bearing or cook a piston ring and spend the rest of the engine's life "treating it" with very expensive treatments, like synthetic High Mileage oil and oil consumption additives. He'll feel right at home with a chronically sick patient that is made totally dependent on his services eh?
Originally Posted By: RowdyYates
I looked at the sticker in the window from Wal Mart and he is over 27,000 miles on Pennzoil conventional.
and i thought the trailblazer that came in with almost 17K on QS conventional was a bit excessive
I looked at the sticker in the window from Wal Mart and he is over 27,000 miles on Pennzoil conventional.
and i thought the trailblazer that came in with almost 17K on QS conventional was a bit excessive
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