The one I was refering to has Chevy, Pontiac/Cadillac, Buick/GMC, Saturn.
The Honda dealer is a stand alone.
GM isn't so bad!
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The Honda dealer is a stand alone.
That's a little excessive. The Buick/GMC dealer should probably be combined with the Pontiac/Cadillac dealer.
GM has already begun shifting their dealerships around. From now on, Buick, GMC, & Pontiac will all be in one dealership. This is so they can cover all aspects of the market (performance, luxury, trucks & SUV's). I believe Chevrolet will continue to stand alone. And if I'm correct, Cadillac, SAAB, & Hummer will be teamed together, but I'm not as sure about that one.
Not often any more. This is a puzzling problem, because, IMO, by glumping the different brand stores under one roof, I think they start to lose brand identity (assuming there's any of that left). One of the best dealerships I've ever dealt with was Jack Lee Buick in Pensacola, a stand-alone, Buick only store. This was the place where I bought my 98 Regal GS, which I kept until 01. Actually, I kept the second one until 01. They took the first one back after about six months of trouble with the first, and gave me a new one on an even swap basis. These guys knew their product and their customers, and tried harder to please than any dealer I've ever seen, including Pensacola's very good Toyota dealership. I was dismayed when, in around 2000 IIRC, GM revoked the Buick franchise and handed it over to the local Pontiac-GMC outfit as part of dealer consolidation. I can see perhaps weeding out excess same-brand dealers in the same area, but killing off their dedicated brand specialists seemed to me to be a poor idea. My then-boss played golf with Dave Lee (who'd inherited the business from his Dad, Jack), and I had taken a real liking to how the Lees did business. Frankly, had GM not messed with things, I'd probably have kept buying Buicks, if for no other reason than my positive feeling about, and relationship with, that dealership. But with a knife in Dave Lee's back, and the issues I had with my cars, I ended up with a real bad taste in my mouth regarding GM. I hope they get a little smarter on the dealership strategy end too.
I'm surprised y'all are still here ....
I have in the back of my head that Pontiac and GMC were commonly tied together at dealers in the 60's (way before my car buying days), and that one of the little Pontiac V8's, the 326 maybe, was used in a GMC truck. So Pontiac / GMC may just be history repeating itself.
My local Pontiac dealer is now twinned with a Buick dealer, and the GMC dealer is a separate, old family firm, a few blocks away.
I read that the new pres. of GM North American operations is an old Pontiac man, being brought in from GM Asia Pacific.
I have in the back of my head that Pontiac and GMC were commonly tied together at dealers in the 60's (way before my car buying days), and that one of the little Pontiac V8's, the 326 maybe, was used in a GMC truck. So Pontiac / GMC may just be history repeating itself.
My local Pontiac dealer is now twinned with a Buick dealer, and the GMC dealer is a separate, old family firm, a few blocks away.
I read that the new pres. of GM North American operations is an old Pontiac man, being brought in from GM Asia Pacific.
Some more food for thought...
Cadillac Tops Lexus in Satisfaction Survey
Also note, that even though the Pilot won it's category, it seems that SUV owners aren't going away anytime soon. Good news for GM and their new line-up of full-size SUV's and their soon to come cross-over SUV's (Buick Enclave, Saturn Outlook, & GMC Acadia).
Cadillac Tops Lexus in Satisfaction Survey
Also note, that even though the Pilot won it's category, it seems that SUV owners aren't going away anytime soon. Good news for GM and their new line-up of full-size SUV's and their soon to come cross-over SUV's (Buick Enclave, Saturn Outlook, & GMC Acadia).
A '72 Vega ended my relationship with GM. What can I say, I hold a grudge.
That's one **** of a grudge!
Win, what does it prove?
That in your particular case or your daughter's case the Toyota wasn't as perfect as you would it expect it to be?
Besides your GTO is made in Australia, your Jag - in U.K.
We're talking about GM, the core company here, not its satellites.
So Vad, are you saying that anything built in the U.S. is junk and everything built outside is OK? Because as I'm sure you are well aware, there are a number of import manufacturing plants on U.S. soil. So you're point about where it was produced proves nothing.
mshu7, read the source, not the GM spin.
Lexus Wins AutoPacific 2006 Vehicle Satisfaction Award for Top Brand: "Lexus' win comes from an especially strong showing by its LS430 Premium Luxury Car and solid results from the rest of its lineup. Strong vehicle scores combined with real luxury-level customer handling at Lexus dealerships edges Lexus ahead of other luxury brands like Cadillac, Infiniti, Land Rover, and Lincoln. European luxury brands other than Land Rover are down on the list this year."
Lexus LS430 Wins AutoPacific 2006 Vehicle Satisfaction Award for Premium Luxury Cars: "Owners of the Lexus LS return the Lexus flagship to its accustomed place at the top of the Premium Luxury Car rankings. With a combination of extremely luxurious ride and driving dynamics, top notch materials, bulletproof quality and overachieving dealers, the Lexus LS provides its owners with an extremely satisfying experience."
Cadillac CTS Wins AutoPacific 2006 Vehicle Satisfaction Award for Entry Luxury Cars: "Cadillac CTS moves to the top of the Entry Luxury Car category in 2006. The European ambience of the CTS makes it a clear alternative to the Japanese and European brand entries in this segment. The fact CTS comes from an American brand is a testament to Cadillac understanding what buyers in this product category really want."
GM spin?
That's a new one. Toyota is the one that has people drinking the Kool-Aid...ya know, because we all know they are PERFECT!
That's a new one. Toyota is the one that has people drinking the Kool-Aid...ya know, because we all know they are PERFECT!
Looks to me like Vad called your bluff, mshu7!
Your comeback isn't too convincing either.
Guess omission is not considered spin?
Talk to Bill O'reilly
Your comeback isn't too convincing either.
Guess omission is not considered spin?
Talk to Bill O'reilly
Scott,
Really, it doesn't matter what anybody says b/c with Vad nothing is ever good enough for him. Not worth wasting my breath anymore...
Really, it doesn't matter what anybody says b/c with Vad nothing is ever good enough for him. Not worth wasting my breath anymore...
mshu7, I've never said that.
It doesn't matter where the vehicle is being build.
GM's domestic plants are outdated, the labor is inefficient, the management is unfocused, the model lines are redundant, the quality is spotty, the dealer's network is out ot touch etc, etc, etc.
Hmm...strange. When you say "Besides your GTO is made in Australia, your Jag - in U.K.", it sure sounds like that's what you're implying. If that's not what you were implying, what was your point with that statement?
I don't see that, to be honest.
Now as for what he posted in response to your post about Cadillac, I think there's a point there.
It does no good to GM or owners to post a partially true statement.
It's great that Caddy got the entry-level award, but your post made it sound like the have overtaken Lexus in the luxury market - which they clearly haven't.
Scott
Scott,
I never posted anything more than what the article stated. I did give my opinion on the SUV segment, but that isn't the luxury segment.
The headline of the article was "Cadillac Tops Lexus in Satisfaction Survey". I posted a link to the article.
Yeah, I guess it turns out there was more to the story than what was in the article I posted...sorry!
But, I never made it sound like anything other than what the headline read.
I never posted anything more than what the article stated. I did give my opinion on the SUV segment, but that isn't the luxury segment.
The headline of the article was "Cadillac Tops Lexus in Satisfaction Survey". I posted a link to the article.
Yeah, I guess it turns out there was more to the story than what was in the article I posted...sorry!
But, I never made it sound like anything other than what the headline read.
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