Drew The shelves are full in So Cal now. How many cases you want?
GM authorizes Pennzoil Platinum as replacement
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
Mobil 1 5w30
The Mobil 1 5w30 grade delivers the viscosity recommended for most General Motors vehicles and many imports. Mobil 1 5w30 is the first choice of premium car manufacturers, including Corvette.
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec)
Ford WSS-M2C929-A
Honda HTO-06
ACEA A1/B1
ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst)
Specifications and Approvals
Mobil 1 5w30 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Mobil 1 5w30 has the following builder approvals:
General Motors Service Fill GM4718M
General Motors Factory Fill GM 6094M
Ford WSS- M2C929-A
Chrysler MS-6395
Honda RWC
Honda / Acura HTO-06
The Mobil 1 5w30 grade delivers the viscosity recommended for most General Motors vehicles and many imports. Mobil 1 5w30 is the first choice of premium car manufacturers, including Corvette.
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec)
Ford WSS-M2C929-A
Honda HTO-06
ACEA A1/B1
ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst)
Specifications and Approvals
Mobil 1 5w30 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Mobil 1 5w30 has the following builder approvals:
General Motors Service Fill GM4718M
General Motors Factory Fill GM 6094M
Ford WSS- M2C929-A
Chrysler MS-6395
Honda RWC
Honda / Acura HTO-06
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
Here goes another thread...
Getting a good seat for the fight...
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
Here goes another thread...
Getting a good seat for the fight...
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
Here goes another thread...
Getting a good seat for the fight...
Just another worthless mobil 1 thread
I'm right,your wrong, Blah blah blah
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
How many cases you want?
None. To me, it's a moronic consumer decision to use an overpriced product that's been demonstrated to not meet specifications.
Now, if you want to give me a couple cases for free, I'd be happy to take them off your hand. Then, you'll see them in the for sale section of BITOG.
Here goes another thread...
Getting a good seat for the fight...
Just another worthless mobil 1 thread
I'm right,your wrong, Blah blah blah
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Better remove that one from your list.
Until Exxon crawls out from the shadows, I'll never believe it.
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Better remove that one from your list.
Until Exxon crawls out from the shadows, I'll never believe it.
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Says who? Valvoline? Oh Ok
Exxon's silence on the matter says it.
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Better remove that one from your list.
Until Exxon crawls out from the shadows, I'll never believe it.
Yes, the claims have to be true, a major competitor says so!
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Mobil 1 5w30 meets:
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4
Better remove that one from your list.
Until Exxon crawls out from the shadows, I'll never believe it.
Yes, the claims have to be true, a major competitor says so!
Both oils are excellent. Who cares? other than it's nice PP is officially sanctioned...
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Drew
"We would like you to know that while we are aware of Valvoline's assertions, ExxonMobil stands behind the quality of Mobil 1 and all of our lubes products. ExxonMobil's GF 4 licenses for all product lines are valid."
A final post from me on this subject, I have no idea what is in any of these oils, neither do all but possibly a few here...if even they do.
As far as anyone knows other than a Valvoline ad, M1 has the spec's they claim they do. It also is still FF in cars costing over $200,000 as well as some the fastest cars and by some of the most respected auto makers in the world.
Until that changes all else is speculation and B S.
If I learn of something to the contrary then I will reconsider.
BTW I have nearly 400 qt's of oil in my oil stash. Only 15 are M1. I have 30 qt's of PP, 20 qt's of GC, 30 qt's of Amsoil 0W-30, 40+ Havoline Synthetic, 45+ Synpower, 12 Lucas Synthetic, 10 Torco, 35 Mobil 5000, 6 cases of Chevron, 6 cases+ of TropArtic syn blend and about 50 misc QS, Shell, Havoline and Superflo conventional oil.
"We would like you to know that while we are aware of Valvoline's assertions, ExxonMobil stands behind the quality of Mobil 1 and all of our lubes products. ExxonMobil's GF 4 licenses for all product lines are valid."
A final post from me on this subject, I have no idea what is in any of these oils, neither do all but possibly a few here...if even they do.
As far as anyone knows other than a Valvoline ad, M1 has the spec's they claim they do. It also is still FF in cars costing over $200,000 as well as some the fastest cars and by some of the most respected auto makers in the world.
Until that changes all else is speculation and B S.
If I learn of something to the contrary then I will reconsider.
BTW I have nearly 400 qt's of oil in my oil stash. Only 15 are M1. I have 30 qt's of PP, 20 qt's of GC, 30 qt's of Amsoil 0W-30, 40+ Havoline Synthetic, 45+ Synpower, 12 Lucas Synthetic, 10 Torco, 35 Mobil 5000, 6 cases of Chevron, 6 cases+ of TropArtic syn blend and about 50 misc QS, Shell, Havoline and Superflo conventional oil.
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Until that changes all else is speculation and B S.
Nope. Until Exxon sues Ashland for libel, any claim that Mobil 1 5w30 meets spec is B S.
Until that changes all else is speculation and B S.
Nope. Until Exxon sues Ashland for libel, any claim that Mobil 1 5w30 meets spec is B S.
Except Valvoline synthetic doesn't meet the HTO-06 spec. So, it must in turn be junk.
Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
Pennzoil Platinum has been GM 4718M approved and on the list for some time now.
+1, a year or more IIRC.
Pennzoil Platinum has been GM 4718M approved and on the list for some time now.
+1, a year or more IIRC.
No mobil 1 available here. Unless you want a partial oil change of 10w30 ...I am sure once they do their corrective reformulation it will show up again.
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"We would like you to know that while we are aware of Valvoline's assertions, ExxonMobil stands behind the quality of Mobil 1 and all of our lubes products. ExxonMobil's GF 4 licenses for all product lines are valid."
XOM's response doesn't even address the claim made by Ashland.
No one from XOM has responded via email or phone that M1 passes the Seq IVA wear test.
"We would like you to know that while we are aware of Valvoline's assertions, ExxonMobil stands behind the quality of Mobil 1 and all of our lubes products. ExxonMobil's GF 4 licenses for all product lines are valid."
XOM's response doesn't even address the claim made by Ashland.
No one from XOM has responded via email or phone that M1 passes the Seq IVA wear test.
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The amount of evidence that Exxon [censored] up is astounding.
I think it would be more correct to say that there are "allegations" of substandard performance. The jury isn't in as yet.
The amount of evidence that Exxon [censored] up is astounding.
I think it would be more correct to say that there are "allegations" of substandard performance. The jury isn't in as yet.
Originally Posted By: o2man98
Originally Posted By: buster
Interesting....good replacement that is potentially better than the M1 factory fill 5w30.
I didn't think there was still a shortage? Or is XOM tweaking the oil so it now passes the Seq IVA test?
The shelves at my Walmart are still mostly bare of M1 but the numbers on the price tags keep going up while other companies are lowering.
At my Walmart other companys are raising their price. $23.00 PP and Val.
Originally Posted By: buster
Interesting....good replacement that is potentially better than the M1 factory fill 5w30.
I didn't think there was still a shortage? Or is XOM tweaking the oil so it now passes the Seq IVA test?
The shelves at my Walmart are still mostly bare of M1 but the numbers on the price tags keep going up while other companies are lowering.
At my Walmart other companys are raising their price. $23.00 PP and Val.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: o2man98
Originally Posted By: buster
Interesting....good replacement that is potentially better than the M1 factory fill 5w30.
I didn't think there was still a shortage? Or is XOM tweaking the oil so it now passes the Seq IVA test?
The shelves at my Walmart are still mostly bare of M1 but the numbers on the price tags keep going up while other companies are lowering.
Must cost a bit more to make the product actually meet minimum API specs.
Gee, I wonder why there's still a shortage...
Can't blame it on Katrina anymore! Maybe it's hurricane Synpower.
Ever hear of hurricane Ike. It was on the news!
Originally Posted By: o2man98
Originally Posted By: buster
Interesting....good replacement that is potentially better than the M1 factory fill 5w30.
I didn't think there was still a shortage? Or is XOM tweaking the oil so it now passes the Seq IVA test?
The shelves at my Walmart are still mostly bare of M1 but the numbers on the price tags keep going up while other companies are lowering.
Must cost a bit more to make the product actually meet minimum API specs.
Gee, I wonder why there's still a shortage...
Can't blame it on Katrina anymore! Maybe it's hurricane Synpower.
Ever hear of hurricane Ike. It was on the news!
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