Decided to give these a shot. I often buy used tires and these are much more expensive than doing that. Supposed to be 60,000 mile tires. We shall see. So far they are quiet and appear to ride nicely. Hopefully they do ok in the winter. The one thing I am a little concerned about is the lack of siping on the tread blocks. However the tread design does look aggressive so hoping it makes up for it. Anything is better than the front tires I had which were at the wear bars. 18.00 per tire install.