Getting away from synthetics

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Considering the fact that all synthetics are not created equally and that SM rated dino oils are better than ever, is it worth the extra $ for synthetic oils?
 
IF you drive in very cold climate, you can benefit from easier starting with syns.

IF you plan to go more than 10k miles on an oil change, you can benefit from syns.

IF you race the vehicle, or operate under extremely stressful situations of high heat, high load, lots of RPMS, you can benefit from a syn.

Outside of that, not really.
 
In Florida? Depends on your OCI. I doubt you're getting much of the cold-start benifit, and you don't have any high-temp applications listed in your signature.
 
Originally Posted By: cp3
What do you consider a very cold climate?


certainly not what you guys get,thats for sure.
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I think that it depends on how long you plan on keeping a car.

If you buy a new car and only plan on holding it for 5 years, and then you sell it and get another new car, then dino oil would be the way too go.
 
I have 134,000 miles on my '02 Taurus and have a good stockpile of Dino. I plan on shopping sales and using a quality dino for its lifetime right now. I may one day switch to Synthetic, but I bet you I can get 500,000 miles on Dino and 5k Oci's.

In Texas we dont have very cold temps, and the only thing that I can find that you get from Syntetics is extended OCI's.

Of course, if I started driving more, A LOT MORE, I would go to a Synthetic. Right now it takes me a good bit of time to reach 5k miles.
 
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Originally Posted By: cp3
What do you consider a very cold climate?


certainly not what you guys get,thats for sure.
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The guy lives in Ontario, Canada and you imply that he wouldn't benefit from the better cold starting characteristics of synthetic oil?

What did I miss?
 
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
Which type oil is more likely to produce sludge?

Synthetic or Petroleum?



The way you drive a car is more likely to cause sludge than the type of oil, an example being if you drove the car 2 miles to work in the morning and then in the evening you drove 2 miles back home.

When you drive your car always get it up too operating temperature before you shut it off.

If you have a thermostat stuck open and it is running too cool this can lead to sludge.
 
Originally Posted By: hate2work
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Originally Posted By: cp3
What do you consider a very cold climate?


certainly not what you guys get,thats for sure.
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The guy lives in Ontario, Canada and you imply that he wouldn't benefit from the better cold starting characteristics of synthetic oil?

What did I miss?


you need to read it again.you misinterpreted what i replied.the person in florida doesnt get the cold temps. people in ontario get.thats what i meant.
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Originally Posted By: cp3
What do you consider a very cold climate?
Freezing cold is when the temps get below 55*f where I live. I hate cold!!!
 
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
Which type oil is more likely to produce sludge?

Synthetic or Petroleum?

It most likley depends.
 
Originally Posted By: parreda
I use synthetics because it gets hotter than a well diggers a$$ hole down here in Texas
What does that have to do with your oil temps?
 
I would not use full synthetics except I drive a turbo car. The real advantage to Synthetic oil IMO, are to enable one to extend the OCI beyond 7500 miles and in temps below minue 20 degrees. A good Dino oil will do well down to minus 20 and up to 110F? if you use a reasonable OCI recommended by the manufacture. Most of us on this site do the overkill thing, me included. What good is an engine that is good to 400,000 miles if your having constant issues with the electrical system,suspension etc.
 
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I would not use full synthetics except I drive a turbo car. The real advantage to Synthetic oil IMO, are to enable one to extend the OCI beyond 7500 miles and in temps below minue 20 degrees. A good Dino oil will do well down to minus 20 and up to 110F? if you use a reasonable OCI recommended by the manufacture. Most of us on this site do the overkill thing, me included. What good is an engine that is good to 400,000 miles if your having constant issues with the electrical system,suspension etc.


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Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
Which type oil is more likely to produce sludge?

Synthetic or Petroleum?



The way you drive a car is more likely to cause sludge than the type of oil, an example being if you drove the car 2 miles to work in the morning and then in the evening you drove 2 miles back home.

When you drive your car always get it up too operating temperature before you shut it off.

If you have a thermostat stuck open and it is running too cool this can lead to sludge.


Many of the Syn fans here say that "cleanliness" is a true advantage. Even the Gp III is less likely to leave leave deposits, or break down, due to refinement. I would like to believe this, and use synthetic after some problems with dino and bad PCV valve making a mess in my Ford truck. However, I have not seen the theory proved. I am never sure what is marketing, I still think that shocking my stomach will give me 6 pack abs.
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Remember the Mobil 1 oil in the frying pan....For now I believe....

Hethaerto's question is the one I would really like to see an answer to.
 
I forgot to mention a bad PCV Valve, or maybe even a clogged PCV Valve.

We can even put in there a clogged PCV Hose too.
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: cp3
What do you consider a very cold climate?
Freezing cold is when the temps get below 55*f where I live. I hate cold!!!

LOL
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Come on out to MN and I'll show you some cold winter temps
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