Genuine Kia/Hyundai oil filter 5650 mi cut open

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: steve20
One of my customers has a 13 Elantra--with significant start up noise--40 K miles. I used a TG last time, next time it will be the Hyundai/Kia OEM filter to see it it quiets it down
IMO & FWIW you are right on the money for the OCI
Steve


I've heard of owners experiecing that, I never have. I think hyundai even had a TSB about it. I have run the oem filter, fram ultra, and right now a microgreen. I don't hear any startup noise on my 13 elantra.

 

[Kamele0N]

Did my OCI today on my both i30 FD... Oil filter for my 1.4CVVT was/is MANN w811/80...made in Korea...OEM is the sam P/N 26300-35503

 

[Kamele0N]

 

[Kamele0N]

 

[addyguy]

Really, really appreciate the C&P on this. Looks like a very solid filter.

If you go to the Kia Soul forums, they go crazy at everyone to run NOTHING but these filters.

...and there may be something to it - ran 'Fram clone' 9688's on my Soul until last change, and then tried an OEM filter, and the 'valve rattle' the 2.0 is infamous for goes down to next to nothing, and was very noticeable before.

Also, good choice on running 10W-30 in this car, it reduced oil consumption on my Soul.

In such a modern age, these cars are becoming a real throwback - plain-jane 10W-30 and OEM filters every 5k and they run like champs!

 

[Kamele0N]

Nothing else as helix hx7 10w40 or ultra 5w40

 

[53' Stude]

The flowers in one picture look gorgeous

Thanks for the info and pictures good sir

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Thank you for posting

I think most OEM Hyundai/Kia filters are Korean Manns

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: Dyusik
Stop changing new filters

Yeah, I'm noticing that oil filters last much, much longer than most folks think they do....

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: Dyusik
but at that efficiency I'll pass.


I'd hazard a guess he's joking.... as Navy P3 said, it isn't published.

....but I'll speculate the efficiency number is as good as a Wix or motorcraft.

 

[WhizkidTN]

Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: Dyusik
but at that efficiency I'll pass.


I'd hazard a guess he's joking.... as Navy P3 said, it isn't published.

....but I'll speculate the efficiency number is as good as a Wix or motorcraft.


Actually, not joking. There is a Hyundai video out about their filters compared to "fakes". It is Hyundai that made the 50 micron statement. The OEM filters are built like a tank but with suspect filtering efficiency, I'll be switching to Fram Ultra's for my Optima as a result.

 

[goodtimes]

I would bet the filter catches smaller particles than 50 microns, which is .002 in. Those would score bearings badly if they were hard. Someone on a video, on the phone, or even in an email saying something is almost no proof at all. It has to be on an official document of specifications from a reliable source. That's how they run manufacturing everything is specified and documented.

 

[SHOZ]

 

[goodtimes]

The video shows 99.2% greater than 50 microns and isn't just someone saying it. That's reasonably documented specs. The other efficiency values at other microns are not shown.
That isn't what the person said when they said the video said 50 microns, which is only a size. Just so it's clear, the filter does catch smaller than 50, which was the implication that it did not.

 

[ZeeOSix]

It's been hashed many times over that "greater than xx microns" essentially means "@50 microns" (50.001 micron is >50 microns). So this filter can be said to have an efficiency of "99.2% @ 50 microns". That's not really stellar by any means when you compare it to something like the Ultra with is 99+% @ 20 microns.

And any filter will catch a lesser % of smaller particles, but if the filter is rated at 99% @ 50 microns it's going to catch less smaller particles less than 20 microns than the filter rated at 99% @ 20 microns.

 

[oil_film_movies]

Why mess with anything less than a Fram Ultra? Its not like it costs much more, and many times less. Wire-backing handles pressure spikes these Kias are famous for. Ultra has greater efficiency. All glass fiber, no cellulose paper in the Ultra media. Ultra holds more dirt.

Is there a concern about an Ultra can bursting under too much pressure? I guess thats the only rational reason I can think of to use the heavy gauge OEM filter. Yet Fram does put their Ultra through a lot of tests:

Fram oil filter tests: "Mechanical and Durability tests. Oil filters are also subjected to numerous tests to assure the integrity of the filter and its components during vehicle operating conditions. These tests include Burst Pressure, Impulse Fatigue, Vibration, Relief Valve and Anti-Drainback Valve operation, and Hot Oil Durability."

 

[Tony10s]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
It's been hashed many times over that "greater than xx microns" essentially means "@50 microns" (50.001 micron is >50 microns). So this filter can be said to have an efficiency of "99.2% @ 50 microns". That's not really stellar by any means when you compare it to something like the Ultra with is 99+% @ 20 microns.

And any filter will catch a lesser % of smaller particles, but if the filter is rated at 99% @ 50 microns it's going to catch less smaller particles less than 20 microns than the filter rated at 99% @ 20 microns.


+1

The Hyundai OEM filters are well-built, but there are also other filters out there that are well-built and are just as good or better than the OEM filter. Examples would be WIX/NAPA Gold and FRAM Ultra, which also have better filtering efficiencies. I've used both of these (as well as other brands) on my Hyundai with no issues, and I know others who have as well.

 

[Toptierpao]

OEM Hyundai/Kia filter is garbage compared to any aftermarket filter with silicone anti drain back valve and synthetic media. There is a comparison between the Hyundai OEM filter vs a Mobil I EP filter. The Mobil I EP filtered as much as 5 times the particles as the Hyundai filter.

With all the issues Hyundai has had,why anyone would use the OEM filter is beyond me.To top it all off,many still run conventional oil in todays engines.

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: Toptierpao
OEM Hyundai/Kia filter is garbage compared to any aftermarket filter with silicone anti drain back valve and synthetic media. There is a comparison between the Hyundai OEM filter vs a Mobil I EP filter. The Mobil I EP filtered as much as 5 times the particles as the Hyundai filter.

With all the issues Hyundai has had,why anyone would use the OEM filter is beyond me.To top it all off,many still run conventional oil in todays engines.

So where is the data for failed Hyundai engines caused by using the OEM filter?

 

[oil_film_movies]

Originally Posted By: Toptierpao
OEM Hyundai/Kia filter is garbage compared to any aftermarket filter with silicone anti drain back valve and synthetic media. There is a comparison between the Hyundai OEM filter vs a Mobil I EP filter. The Mobil I EP filtered as much as 5 times the particles as the Hyundai filter.
Using the Mobil 1 EP filter as the example is wrong here, since you are saying you like synthetic media oil filters. The M1 EP oil filter uses a blend of cellulose and glass fiber media. Fram Ultra, Puro Boss, Royal Purple, and Amsoil EaO oil filters are the only ones I know of that have full synthetic glass fiber media. (Certain MB oil filters notwithstanding.)