Genesis, Hyundai and KIA on the roll
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I agree, Genesis/Hyundai/Kia have really stepped up their game to the point that they are always in the conversation about good looking cars and SUV’s, now.
Yes, they are at the top of the quality rankings. Whowouldathunkit 15-20 years ago!
Rather them then me buying there brands. Just my opinion overall. Kia has produced some nice looking vehicles here the last half decade -- too many engine failures and headaches knowing from personal friends/family to "ever" -- justify me buying one new over!!! Yeah -- got my point.
Owned five myself. Most dependable brands I've owned. No problems with friends and family either.
Nick1994
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They're at the top of the game.
My 420hp, $53k when new car that I paid new base Corolla money for.
My 420hp, $53k when new car that I paid new base Corolla money for.
I wish my 4Runner had 420hp! It needs it.
With this new generation looks like they trying too hard to outdesign the german brands across their lineup. Their success was based on giving alot of features bundle in whether you wanted it or not and undercutting the price of their competitors. Hence why their resale value sucks. Guess we see if the new design language hurts them.
Looks rwd styling from front and a hatchback from the back.
Looks rwd styling from front and a hatchback from the back.
The next challenge for Hun/Kia going upmarket is to transform the dealer experience.
They still feel too much like a buy here / pay here lot for my liking.
Separate Genesis dealerships would help tremendously.
They still feel too much like a buy here / pay here lot for my liking.
Separate Genesis dealerships would help tremendously.
Up until about 2011, l would only consider Japanese makes. The styling of H/K vehicles caught my eye over the last decade. I'm now at the point where l would consider Hyundai/Kia along with the Japanese makes if l was in the market for a new car.
The Telluride, Sonata, and Genesis SUVs definitely distinguish themselves in the marketplace.
The Telluride, Sonata, and Genesis SUVs definitely distinguish themselves in the marketplace.
But yet they warranty the powertrain to 100,000 miles. It's funny my family and friends really like their Hyundai/Kias. I have learned on this forum that statements like yours usually have underlying reason(s) other than what is stated. They replaced my Son's motor in his Sonata (outside of warranty) and paid for a rental car for two weeks and ZERO COST to him.
That's a company playing the "long-ball" game.
There is underlying reasons, neighbors 2013 Sonata with 144K dropped 3 cylinders out of nowhere with OCIs from day one using full synthetic changed every 4000 miles. Two other friends of mine who have newer ones -- both Hyundais and there interior quality and ride is terrible. Read up on here and you will find a plethora of problems with there engines also. Like I stated, I personally would not buy one new. No need for me to explain or justify more than what is evident on BITOG. Replacing your Sons engine out of warranty -- ok -- thats what you say. :O
There you go -- there is your resale value.
Since when does "resale value" come in to play on this forum? This is where old cars come to die and most when buying (new or used) keep them until end of life.
There are a few "frequent traders" on here.....very few.
Nick1994
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Your VW doesn’t hold much value either.
Seems the smartest to buy a car that depreciates, just don’t buy it new.
A few years ago I bought a 2 year old Sonata for $9,990. The cheapest Camry in the state was $14k, and the cheapest Accord in the state was $16k. The cheapest piece of junk Chevy Cruze was $11k (small car).
Let someone else pay for the new price and you get to benefit with depreciation.
The transaction price of the vehicles when new would have been AT LEAST as much of the differnce you mentioned-and likely more. I bought a new 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Limited AWD. The difference between the Hyundai and Honda Pilot was well over $5,000.00.
Two of the lowest resale cars are the KIA Optima and KIA Cadenza. The used car values of those drop off a cliff. That 100,000 mile warranty is the big attraction, take away that and what's left. What’s left is a hot potato nobody wants. Buying one used for $10K seems like the greater fool theory in action, even if you do plan to keep it. Wait until you get into a minor fender bender and the insurance company decides to total your car instead and writes you a check for $4,600.
Too bad their dealers are hot garbage.
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