Gas without Ethanol

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I live in south central Indiana. Are there any brands that only carry gas containing no ethanol? We have Marathon, Swifty, BP, Shell, and Country Mark close. I know of a couple Chevrons, but they aren't really all that close. I'm just trying to decide on a good gas to use. I've read through other posts and haven't found much.

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Since EPA requires oxygenates and MTBE is banned, what is in ethanol free gas? This questyion has bothered me for some time and I refuse to use these fuels because I no longer know what they are adding. Telling me what they DON'T ADD is only half of the equation.
 
Originally Posted By: Boomer
Since EPA requires oxygenates and MTBE is banned, what is in ethanol free gas? This questyion has bothered me for some time and I refuse to use these fuels because I no longer know what they are adding. Telling me what they DON'T ADD is only half of the equation.
Only for offshore boat uses and big $$$.
 
Originally Posted By: iunderpressure
I live in south central Indiana. Are there any brands that only carry gas containing no ethanol? We have Marathon, Swifty, BP, Shell, and Country Mark close. I know of a couple Chevrons, but they aren't really all that close. I'm just trying to decide on a good gas to use. I've read through other posts and haven't found much.

Thanks
Your car should tell you which one is good, but the blends change with most every delivery. Gas has been terrible here this fall thru winter.
 
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Originally Posted By: Boomer
Since EPA requires oxygenates and MTBE is banned, what is in ethanol free gas? This questyion has bothered me for some time and I refuse to use these fuels because I no longer know what they are adding. Telling me what they DON'T ADD is only half of the equation.

Don't they just add nothing? You get plain gas with no ethanol or MTBE added?
 
The easiest way to tell in larger percentages (i.e. 10%) is by smell. When I would go through Dallas I could smell the ethanol that is in the gasoline when I bought some. Smells likes grain alcohol that you can buy at the liquor store.
 
Shell is a "top tier" gas, so it has 8-10% ethanol. Around here some BPs have 10% ethanol in their low and mid grades, some don't; but none have ethanol in the premium. Looks like most of the Country Mark is 10% ethanol. Marathons here in SW Michigan don't have ethanol (but I haven't been to one in a while). Don't know about Swifty.
 
Here is how you can easily determine alcohol content by yourself: You will need a 10cc graduated cylinder with 0.1 cc graduations. Fill the graduate with one cc of water. Add about 7 cc of the gasoline, noting precisely the amount added. Vigorously shake the graduate of gas and water and let the contents settle. The water will settle to the bottom, in a layer distinct from the gasoline, but it will have combined with any alcohol present in the sample. The volume of that bottom layer in excess of the original 1 cc of water is the amount of alcohol that was in the measured amount of gasoline that you added to the cylinder.
 
Originally Posted By: lewdwig
Shell is a "top tier" gas, so it has 8-10% ethanol.


A Top Tier gas doesn't have to contain ethanol. That ethanol statement is in the requirements for testing gas & this test is what requires ethanol.
 
Originally Posted By: Boomer
Since EPA requires oxygenates and MTBE is banned, what is in ethanol free gas? This questyion has bothered me for some time and I refuse to use these fuels because I no longer know what they are adding. Telling me what they DON'T ADD is only half of the equation.


The EPA requirement is only for non-attainment areas, these are all around large population centers. Outside of non-attainment areas you may or may not get oxygenate/ethanol blends depending on additional local and state codes and supply and distribution considerations.
 
Originally Posted By: lewdwig
Shell is a "top tier" gas, so it has 8-10% ethanol. Around here some BPs have 10% ethanol in their low and mid grades, some don't; but none have ethanol in the premium. Looks like most of the Country Mark is 10% ethanol. Marathons here in SW Michigan don't have ethanol (but I haven't been to one in a while). Don't know about Swifty.


Probably all the grades have corn juice..Its probably just not listed on the pumps...Down here there was corn juice in all the gas stations and in every grade even though some pumps did not have it posted...Finally they are all posted with miserable gas guzzling corn juice.
 
Originally Posted By: iunderpressure
Are there any brands that only carry gas containing no ethanol?

Not in Indiana. Some local chains and independent stations may stick with non ethanol gas but any claims I've read of big name chains avoiding ethanol must be old because none do now. The subsidies are too good to pass up.

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I know of a couple Chevrons

Where are there Chevron in south central Indiana? The first one I know of is across the border in Louisville and they remain sparse until Tennessee.

Originally Posted By: Boomer
Since EPA requires oxygenates and MTBE is banned

The oxygenate mass requirement is less than 10% ethanol. The 10% of E10 comes from the EPA mandate. Some areas oxygenate with ethanol at the minimum level: E5.6. The MTBE ban is not federal and not all states have banned it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline
http://www.epa.gov/MTBE/contacts.htm

Since boats are not very efficient and some fuel goes into the water, how was the use of MTBE in boat fuel not banned from the start?

Originally Posted By: lewdwig
Around here some BPs have 10% ethanol in their low and mid grades, some don't; but none have ethanol in the premium. Looks like most of the Country Mark is 10% ethanol. Marathons here in SW Michigan don't have ethanol (but I haven't been to one in a while).

In 2006 maybe. In 2010 I'll be surprised if there is even a single automotive gas station left in Michigan that provides E0. You don't need an accurate measuring device to test for ethanol. Any see-through bottle with marks on it will work. I use an upside down Redline SI-1 bottle. Add a few ounces of water up to any mark. Shake in some gas and if the water line rises there's ethanol. Dispose of the contaminated gas in the intake.
 
Since ethanol has higher octance rating, would Regular E10 have:

1) Better than the labeled 87 (R+M)/2; or

2) Start out with a lower grade of base fuel, and use ethanol to bring the AKI up to the labeled minimum.

I suspect #2 personally...
 
Some states require the gas stations to state whether it has any ethanol. Oklahoma is one of those states and so I usually put the 10% ethanol in the van but the v8 Lexus gets 100% premium fuel (no ethanol at about 5 cents more a gallon than with---a bargain!).
 
Originally Posted By: iunderpressure
The Chevrons near me are in Brandenburg, KY.

I think all chevron stations in ky are now e10. However, KY does not require e10 pump markings.
 
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