What about them? A Tahoe retains better than an X7. And the Sequoia retains better than both of them. And it's not because the Sequoia looks prettier.
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What about them? A Tahoe retains better than an X7. And the Sequoia retains better than both of them. And it's not because the Sequoia looks prettier.
Not so sure about your take on the resale value of a Tahoe vs a Sequoia.
If only for the joy of driving one, I'd suggest you get yourself a properly maintained used BMW and see how it goes as I have in the past. I think you'd be surprised at how reliable and durable they are, and they aren't the transportation analog of a laundry appliance that almost all Toyota or badge-engineered Lexus models are.
Get yourself a Corolla or a Camry, it'll last forever?
The driving experience will make it seem that way.
If only for the joy of driving one, I'd suggest you get yourself a properly maintained used BMW and see how it goes as I have in the past. I think you'd be surprised at how reliable and durable they are, and they aren't the transportation analog of a laundry appliance that almost all Toyota or badge-engineered Lexus models are.
Get yourself a Corolla or a Camry, it'll last forever?
The driving experience will make it seem that way.
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They are looking at the mirror waiting Mississippi to take over.
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Sequoia currently holds price because you know down the road you are getting one or two engines brand new from factory.
That was big in California. Old diesels with the frame were being overhauled. I think the grace period for that sort of thing has closed.
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Wait, doesn’t BMW buy engines from Toyota? Oh wait….
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I highly doubt people will stop looking at fuel economy. EPA penalties or not, there will always be market for fuel efficient vehicles because the price of gas directly correlates to that.
There is a market.
The problem is that it's shrunk so much in our country.
It's hard not to live like an American in America, though. And it's not just cars-- they aren't making "starter houses" anymore. Towns don't want to approve their designs, builders don't want to build them. $15k to put in a one-bathroom septic or $16k for a two-bathroom. They say the average single family residential square footage has grown however-much since 1940. Great if that's what you want to buy, heat, and maintain but not if you don't.
A visitor from Europe might be impressed driving around, but some of us are choking on our own largess.
Well, you are wrong. Regardless, CA is the largest non-nation economy in the world, by far, currently between Germany and Japan. There is a reson for it. California's economy is largely driven by private businesses and free markets, making it a powerful capitalist system. That enables entrepreneurial business opportunities fueled by a strong system of public education.
Opportunity abounds; I am a beneficiary of our thriving, and hungry, economy.
Per caredge.com for 2025 model year:
The Toyota Sequoia will hold 67% of it's value after 5 years.
The Chevrolet Tahoe will hold 47% of it's value after 5 years
Resale strength of Toyota compared to other manufacturers is clear and well established. This isn't difficult information to find.
Anyways, I already own a Corolla (9th gen. 5 speed manual, 2500 lbs, zippy handling, good torque), I've owned it since 2009. 15+ years later I still drive it. Meanwhile the typical BMW owner, (or lessee in most cases), has probably gone through 2 or 3 3 series' over this period losing their shirt each time they've sold or signed on a new one - assuming they didn't learn their lesson the first time.
Which used BMW do you recommend?
For you, probably none. Since you find an old Corolla a satisfactory car I'd doubt that a BMW will be in your future. Your loss.
Another member has already posted the advertised prices of similar examples of a used Tahoe and a used Sequoia showing the Toy well behind in resale value, but you might have missed that.
We also have members here who have owned BMWs for as long as you've had your Toy and they still have their shirts.
I know it's sometimes hard to let go of favorite memes.
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Is that Sequoia equipped with Toyota's new self-disassembling turbocharged V6 that was also fitted to the Tundra?
This is true, Toyota has strong resale, but so does Jeep Wrangler, most domestic pick-up trucks, and cars like Corvette. This isn't exclusively driven by reliability (or perceived reliability) but also desirability (hence the Wrangler) and exclusivity. Vehicles like the TRX, Trackhawk, Redeye...etc all command stupid value. Even a used SRT Grand Cherokee holds its value extremely well due to lower production numbers.
My sister is still driving her 2003 330i, though it's pretty rough at this point, at 22 years old and being driven in Canadian winters every year. This mythos that nothing can even approach a Toyota's longevity is eclipsed only by the hubris of its proponents.
Why not get a Supra? That way you get the Toyota badge on the BMW.
GM is developing engine with DI and single port injector in the intake plenum.
I have crawled all over our 2019 Rav4, my first Toyota. I haven't found anything compelling enough to make me believe its particularly better than any other car I have owned. I think the Toyota myth is a bit self fulfilling. People worried about longevity buy Toyota's due to reputation, then ensure they are "over maintained", often at a dealer.
Many BMW types drive it like they stole it.
H/K figure its got 100K warranty - what do I care.
Thats my take on a lot of this. Most of the things that fail on any car are components made by some other company.
Still the resale residual is real. Perception is the driver of price.
Jeff, Good point, but on the other hand there are many large businesses / employers leaving CA.
What you are saying is true, but it is also picking outliers, for lack of a better term, to a degree. The Toyota/Lexus brand has the name and numbers for resale, longevity and overall low cost of ownership.
Me? I just drove the 60K Camry LE to a friend's place, over the Santa Cruz Mountains. Even with new Bridgestone rubber, the car scared me half to death, I'm sorry to say. I wouldn't own it. Of course it is easily worth $12K as it sits, just not to me.
Resale value is primarily driven by reliability. Nobody is talking about niche, enthusiast vehicles.
Beyond the Sequoia, both the Tundra & Tacoma resales are stronger than domestic competitors. Let's not even bring up the 4Runner.
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