Fram Ultra ripping us off?

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Cut open an XG10575 today. 2 layers, a very thin, soft, almost like felt-like cellulose or maybe even cotton outer layer with a paper back layer. No 2-layer fiberglass. No wire backing.
I'm running an XG2 right now, and feel the need to cut one of those open to make sure.
I feel betrayed here. This is a conventional media.

 

[JavierH19]

basically just a tough guard with metal caps instead for $2+ more. i dont mind this but they should at least reduce the price a bit.

 

[wpod]

Fram Ultra ripping us off? Only you can decide. In real life an oil filters filtering ability will make little difference regardless of what papers you read in the engine life of a properly maintained passenger vehicle over its life. Pay attention to the million mile vehicle reports.

 

[Drewby83]

Look at this locked monster....

The New Fram Ultra......

I'm certain I won't do this, but I do appreciate your ingenuity in not opening the box, breaking the seal to determine if it's the original authentic Ultra or the replacement. Next up, need to post the weight of all the other applications...or at least the most common ones. ;) j/k I can do one...

bobistheoilguy.com

 

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Funny they haven't updated the website

 

[JohnnyG]

I'd use that filter without one bit of concern. As a matter of fact, Mercedes recommends a Mann "FELT" filter for their engines.

 

[mrsilv04]

With the current mess that we're in, and have been in for over a year and a half now, I think we're going to see a lot of this moving forward. And folks had better start getting used to it.

Companies are going to start substitutung with whatever raw materials that they can source to manufacture their products, in an attempt to just be able to keep making products, and in turn be able to keep them on the shelves.

You can buy an Ultra that is manufactured like this, that may or may not meet your approval, and may or may not meet the advertised specifications... or you can move on to something else. There's your choices.

I'd rather get an oil filter, than get no oil filter.

That all said, I use $4 OEM oil filters for my cars and trucks. I'm never disappointed over the quality of a $10 filter.

 

[Zee09]

With the current mess that we're in, and have been in for over a year and a half now, I think we're going to see a lot of this moving forward. And folks had better start getting used to it.

Companies are going to start substitutung with whatever raw materials that they can source to manufacture their products, in an attempt to just be able to keep making products, and in turn be able to keep them on the shelves.

You can buy an Ultra that is manufactured like this, that may or may not meet your approval, and may or may not meet the advertised specifications... or you can move on to something else. There's your choices.

I'd rather get an oil filter, than get no oil filter.

That all said, I use $4 OEM oil filters for my cars and trucks. I'm never disappointed over a $10 filter.

Well said...

 

[RazorsEdge]

Well said...

It's too bad others don't sit down and realize that things are never going to be like they were before and things will continue to change and adapt to our new world.

 

[wdn]

Win with WIX.

 

[WylieCoyote]

What a great coincidence. My XG10575 just arrived via Amazon last night. Hope it's not a POS, because it's going on the Mustang on Saturday.

Not really anything you can count these days, from the look of things. Wix is getting cheesy with their materials as well, as indicated in another thread on this board. They used to be my go-to, now I only trust their air filters.

"Install and pray" is the sentiment for the future.

 

[Job]

I will have to buy one of these. They say it filters better. Looks like normal product changes.

 

[daman]

FRAM says it filters the same or better but i would still rather have the old media set up, personally I don't think it does.

Just a way to cheapen out and get the same money!!

 

[kschachn]

Cut open an XG10575 today. 2 layers, a very thin, soft, almost like felt-like cellulose or maybe even cotton outer layer with a paper back layer. No 2-layer fiberglass. No wire backing.
I'm running an XG2 right now, and feel the need to cut one of those open to make sure.
I feel betrayed here. This is a conventional media.

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I’m curious as to how you were able to determine that the media is conventional and not synthetic?

 

[ron17571]

I'm not so picky, I would be ok with a toilet paper filter like they used years ago. I have one of these Fram synthetic filters laying around for my next oil change and think it will be ok for a few thousand miles.

 

[wdn]

Or more likely it’s just shameless cost cutting & profiteering now that the windshield wiper company is running Fram. Like they planned this sort of thing from Day One of the acquisition.

 

[Greggy_D]

Look at this locked monster....

37 pages???!!!

 

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I’m curious as to how you were able to determine that the media is conventional and not synthetic?

Burn it. If it's cellulose, it'll burn away, if it's synthetic either it won't burn, or it will melt and bead up

 

[JC1]

Here we go again........

 

[kschachn]

Burn it. If it's cellulose, it'll burn away, if it's synthetic either it won't burn, or it will melt and bead up

Is that what you did?