FRAM ULTRA 3593A CUT OPEN

[53' Stude]

From Subierubyroo and off his 2006 Honda Odyssey with I forget oil brand and grade. Something I noticed was oil had kinda mint or.... smell to it. Maybe it's that "german oil" he got from amazon

Anyways looks good I will say. Enjoy the filter porn folks

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

How did it taste? Lol

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
How did it taste? Lol



No idea, I prefer the Irish beer Guinness

 

[Bud]

Cut open Fram Ultra's are boring. In a good way.

 

[53' Stude]

quote=Bud]Cut open Fram Ultra's are boring. In a good way.[/quote

Very true sir

 

[Vern_in_IL]

That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by Vern_in_IL
That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.


Those things that look like louvers are normal, and part of the manufacturing process. Motorking explained it a while ago. I wouldn't call a little flare on the center tube holes any issue, the metal isn't going anywhere.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
How did it taste? Lol



No idea, I prefer the Irish beer Guinness

Good taste again!

 

[Pinoak]

The metal burrs are certainly an issue if some came loose you know where they are going.
What I really want to see is the other end of the center tube. I'd like to see if the seal impression around the gasket indicates the it was sealing completely all around or not.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Some small jagged metal edges on the hole isn't going to break off. It's just rough edges. More misconception running rabid.

 

[M56959]

The rules at the top of the page are plain.

If you cannot contribute positively to the discussion stay out of it.

Let me be clear, the next post I remove will have its author getting time off.

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted by Pinoak
The metal burrs are certainly an issue if some came loose you know where they are going.
What I really want to see is the other end of the center tube. I'd like to see if the seal impression around the gasket indicates the it was sealing completely all around or not.



That area you mention was sealed, no gaps or anything wrong. Forgot to take pic of it. Sorry, and folks I am glad to do these c&p for you

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted by Vern_in_IL
That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.




I thought it was Trico now? That was the main reason that Motorking stopped posting since he was no longer with Fram.

 

[wemay]

I'm not sure i see "burrs", it looks like the metal mesh between the filtering media and center tube, showing through the center tube holes.

Thx Adam

 

[littleant]

Fram ultra's look great. Thanks for the C&P.

 

[geeman789]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Vern_in_IL
That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.


Those things that look like louvers are normal, and part of the manufacturing process. Motorking explained it a while ago. I wouldn't call a little flare on the center tube holes any issue, the metal isn't going anywhere.



To me, those x's visible in the holes look like the wire mesh backing supporting the media in the Ultra, not metal burrs from dulling punches ...

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by geeman789
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Vern_in_IL
That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.

Those things that look like louvers are normal, and part of the manufacturing process. Motorking explained it a while ago. I wouldn't call a little flare on the center tube holes any issue, the metal isn't going anywhere.

To me, those x's visible in the holes look like the wire mesh backing supporting the media in the Ultra, not metal burrs from dulling punches ...


It is the wire mesh media backing you're seeing through the holes. I think he's talking about the slight flare on the edge around the circumference of the hole - technically not really a "hanging chad". Just a rough punched hole with a little flare on the edges - it's visibly not perfect looking, but no metal on the hole edge is going to "break off", nor from the rectangular areas along the center tube seam that look like louvers.

 

[Vern_in_IL]

Sorry guys ! But I've never seen a center tube that bad, and yes I buy Ultras. It's a Premo filter. Not some 5 buck special.

I trust the synthetic media, and honestly, that will save Champ Labs from bankruptcy, but I really expected better punching/crimping for a top of the line filter, am I unreasonable, not like I'm complaining about the paint job like I've seen on here before.

 

[Pinoak]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by geeman789
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Vern_in_IL
That center tube.... got some worn punches in the tool.

Unacceptable for an "Ultra" Holes should have no hanging chads, and louvers should be fully open. It looks like they are running the tools longer before cleaning/rebuilding.

This is what happens when your company is restructured in Bankruptcy.. Run lines longer, extend tool maintenance intervals. Champion Labs/UIS/Carlyle Group/United Components/Fram/whatever else they're calling themselves these days, UCI Holdings.

Those things that look like louvers are normal, and part of the manufacturing process. Motorking explained it a while ago. I wouldn't call a little flare on the center tube holes any issue, the metal isn't going anywhere.

To me, those x's visible in the holes look like the wire mesh backing supporting the media in the Ultra, not metal burrs from dulling punches ...


It is the wire mesh media backing you're seeing through the holes. I think he's talking about the slight flare on the edge around the circumference of the hole - technically not really a "hanging chad". Just a rough punched hole with a little flare on the edges - it's visibly not perfect looking, but no metal on the hole edge is going to "break off", nor from the rectangular areas along the center tube seam that look like louvers.

Definitely not Louvers bit the holes are poorly punched leaving burrs that could break loose.
Glad to hear from op that the seal around the center tube where the leaf spring bypass valve fits in looked good.
Sorry though, it shouldn't get a pass on the dangerous burrs do to sloppy manufacturing no matter the manufacturer

 

[ZeeOSix]

No metal is going to "break loose" from any louvers or holes that don't have a perfectly smooth punched edge, regardless of manufacturer. Not every filter in the world has polished louver or hole edges from manufacturing. Just more sensationalism of a none issue that isn't going to happen. "Dangerous burrs" ...