Not likely I'll put a Fram on my BMW, ever.
Fram PH6017A filter cut. . .
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Originally Posted By: grampi
but here's my bottom line; why buy a Fram filter when you can buy better ones for the same, or less money?
What is wrong with this particular PH6017A though? What do other motorcycle filters have that is better?
but here's my bottom line; why buy a Fram filter when you can buy better ones for the same, or less money?
What is wrong with this particular PH6017A though? What do other motorcycle filters have that is better?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: grampi
but here's my bottom line; why buy a Fram filter when you can buy better ones for the same, or less money?
What is wrong with this particular PH6017A though? What do other motorcycle filters have that is better?
Take a look at Wix...or a Purolator...or a K&N...
Originally Posted By: grampi
but here's my bottom line; why buy a Fram filter when you can buy better ones for the same, or less money?
What is wrong with this particular PH6017A though? What do other motorcycle filters have that is better?
Take a look at Wix...or a Purolator...or a K&N...
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I am looking at some Wix filters out there and I'm not sure that they're any better than this particular Fram PH6017A.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I know this is an old thread, but after realizing that my local Kawi dealer did an oil and filter change against my will, dumped the Bosch 3323 that I had installed less than 500 miles prior and put on one of these FRAM filters, ...
Wait, WHAT? I'd be having a "discussion" with them about that!
I know this is an old thread, but after realizing that my local Kawi dealer did an oil and filter change against my will, dumped the Bosch 3323 that I had installed less than 500 miles prior and put on one of these FRAM filters, ...
Wait, WHAT? I'd be having a "discussion" with them about that!
Originally Posted By: grampi
They are...just stay away from the Frams...it isn't necessary to buy them...
Are you referring to Fram OCOD or all Frams? This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
And yes, I would not intentionally go out of my way to buy Fram. Right now I'm running Wix on the bike.
They are...just stay away from the Frams...it isn't necessary to buy them...
Are you referring to Fram OCOD or all Frams? This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
And yes, I would not intentionally go out of my way to buy Fram. Right now I'm running Wix on the bike.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: grampi
They are...just stay away from the Frams...it isn't necessary to buy them...
Are you referring to Fram OCOD or all Frams? This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
And yes, I would not intentionally go out of my way to buy Fram. Right now I'm running Wix on the bike.
I'd say just stay away from ALL Frams...there's no reason to buy any of them...
Originally Posted By: grampi
They are...just stay away from the Frams...it isn't necessary to buy them...
Are you referring to Fram OCOD or all Frams? This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
And yes, I would not intentionally go out of my way to buy Fram. Right now I'm running Wix on the bike.
I'd say just stay away from ALL Frams...there's no reason to buy any of them...
I just ordered and received my oil filter adapter piece,so that i dont have to run those oddball size filters like the ph6018 with 20mmx1.00mm size.or something like that.
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Originally Posted By: boraticus
Would you care to elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that the Chinese Fram filters are sub-standard? How did you test it/them, what quality failures did you find?
I'm certain that there are numerous participants who use Fram filters, myself included, who'd really appreciate the results of your tests.
Holding the 2sise by side, the Korean one was stiff and well built, as we're the made in USA one, the Chinese one was thinner in its material and could be very easily squeezed. It's not something I would want with a lot of pressure on it, as it seems it would collapse very easily. Hold the two side by side and you'll understand.
Would you care to elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that the Chinese Fram filters are sub-standard? How did you test it/them, what quality failures did you find?
I'm certain that there are numerous participants who use Fram filters, myself included, who'd really appreciate the results of your tests.
Holding the 2sise by side, the Korean one was stiff and well built, as we're the made in USA one, the Chinese one was thinner in its material and could be very easily squeezed. It's not something I would want with a lot of pressure on it, as it seems it would collapse very easily. Hold the two side by side and you'll understand.
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But the customer service was awful and that is why I won't ever buy another honeywell product ever.
Honeywell sold the Fram/Prestone/Autolite + other brands in 2011 to the Rank Group in New Zealand.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/honeywell-sells-consumer-auto-products-business/
http://www.ucinc.com/
But the customer service was awful and that is why I won't ever buy another honeywell product ever.
Honeywell sold the Fram/Prestone/Autolite + other brands in 2011 to the Rank Group in New Zealand.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/honeywell-sells-consumer-auto-products-business/
http://www.ucinc.com/
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
I have the exact same filter on my Triumph...works great. But I got mine for $5.97 at WalMart. I only bought one and then found the Purolator Black MC filters on Amazon for $4so I bought several. But the Fram is fine. My Lexus runs a canister filter with glue and no end caps. Never a problem.
This Fram motorcycle filter appears different from a typical Fram OCOD that gets bad rep.
I have the exact same filter on my Triumph...works great. But I got mine for $5.97 at WalMart. I only bought one and then found the Purolator Black MC filters on Amazon for $4so I bought several. But the Fram is fine. My Lexus runs a canister filter with glue and no end caps. Never a problem.
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