fram filter vs toyota filter cartridge style

[CarLuver]

my sister has a 2014 rav 4 and she asked me to change her oil when i have time. i was looking at filter for her vehicle and noticed the fram offering has plastic ends while the oem one has nothing.

so is the fram ok for this application even though it differs so much from the oem

https://www.fram.com/images/FCH9972_Front.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&quality=70&width=500

https://www.walmart.com/ip/OE-Repla...id-LE-Limited-SE-XLE-LE-Platinum-SE/570872478

 

[blufeb95]

As long ad the overall dimensions of the cartridge are the same it doesn't matter, older style cartridges had a solid end cap and some newer designs just have glue at the end of the pleats, overall it doesn't matter the end caps should obstruct oil flow or anything, Toyota even offers a fancy TRD full synthetic media filter with metal end caps, so whether it has end caps or just sealant holding together the end of each pleat really doesn't matter.

 

[Tyson]

Yes. 100% OK.

 

[CB22]

I run the Fram Ultra, and it works well.

 

[dnewton3]

... older style cartridges had a solid end cap and some newer designs just have glue at the end of the pleats, overall it doesn't matter the end caps should obstruct oil flow or anything, Toyota even offers a fancy TRD full synthetic media filter with metal end caps, so whether it has end caps or just sealant holding together the end of each pleat really doesn't matter.

I appreciate your point of view, and agree.

I find it hypocritcal that when it comes to a cartridge filter, most people are willing to accept any type of end cap, but put fiber end-caps on a spin-on filter element inside an oragne can and ... well ... the biggotry against anything but metal runs strong in some folks.

 

[Sayjac]

Yes, either style will work. When it comes to cartridge applications, fit in the housing has been shown to be important. So as noted, dimensions are an important factor. In my observation the majority of cartridges use a similar to Fram type, nylon/plastic type endcap. Either wrapped around pleats (as shown), or even with pleat OD. Really not many metal endcap cartridges, they are a relatively rare exception.

As for the OT broached contrast to spin on type OFs, unlike cartridges there are many metal endcap filters. Rather than arbitrarily labeling folks who choose a certain type filter construction, I prefer to call it a 'preference for a construction type.' Living in America, thankfully there is still freedom of choice. With that in mind, I spend my money as I choose.

 

[Kira]

In the links CarLuver posted a white plastic (?) nipple or fitting was included in the filter.
What is that? Is it like the projecting thing on the Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis filters for the 3.6l?

 

[blufeb95]

white plastic (?) nipple or fitting was included in the filter.
What is that? Is it like the projecting thing on the Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis filters for the 3.6l?

Toyota cartridges mount on the bottom of the engine, there is a special drain plug on the bottom of them that you undo and then there's a valve that you shove that little plastic piece into to drain the cartridge housing before opening it so you don't splosh oil everywhere removing a full cartridge housing, it's also useful for draining the housing if you want to use a filter for a second OCI.

 

[CR94]

Toyota cartridges mount on the bottom of the engine, there is a special drain plug on the bottom of them that you undo and then there's a valve that you shove that little plastic piece into to drain the cartridge housing before opening it so you don't splosh oil everywhere ...

Not all Toyota cartridges have or need the drain affair. Specifically, the one for 1.8L engines, e.g. Fram 10358, doesn't.

To answer the original question, both no-endcap and endcap cartridges can be good, or not good. Endcapless has the advantage of larger possible effective media area. They're less prone to media tears, and I would guess less expensive to manufacture (tooling aside).