FRAM Extra guard

[Nissan101]

Hi so recently i have been reading on some oil filter reviews etc
and i read some really bad stuff about the fram extra guard, but these posts are a bit dated
so my question is...... are these problems fixed? or were it just people ever reacting?

or is the fram extra guard really that bad?
btw my oci is 5000 miles

 

[FordBroncoVWJeta]

Welcome to BITOG, were everybody thinks FRAM is the best! It might it might not. I would run the Extraguard for the 5K OCI, but why not get the Ultra for a couple dollars more? I would use anything FRAM but the OCOD. Although some people will fight me on that....

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Nissan101
.... are these problems fixed?


Maybe you're thinking of Purolator.

 

[bbhero]

The Fram orange can is capable of going up to 10k miles. One member here took one to 9600 miles and it looked great. I have routinely taken them to 7k miles plus with no problems. Fram has the best quality and best bang for the buck across their filter lineup. Another member here took Fram TGs to 20k miles with no issues at all. The Fram Ultra filter is really capable of going 20-25k miles on a known clean and well maintained motor.

 

[FowVay]

The Fram Extra-Guard (orange can, black nitrile rubber anti-drainback valve) is published as being a 95% efficient (@>20micron) which is not horrible. The build design is typical of Fram and has proven to not be an issue.

The Fram Tough-Guard (silver can, orange silicone rubber anti-drainback valve) is published as being a 99% efficient (@>20micron) which is about as good as you're going to find. Build quality is identical to the orange can but with a different filtering medium.

The Fram Ultra-Guard (gold can, orange silicone rubber anti-drainback valve) is also published as being a 99% efficient (@>20micron) with a greatly increased dirt holding capacity to provide much longer replacement intervals.

On my Nissan truck I use the Fram Tough-Gard. It gives me the excellent filtering ability, the better anti-drainback valve material, and the performance is improved over OEM Nissan product.

 

[mjoekingz28]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Nissan101
.... are these problems fixed?


Maybe you're thinking of Purolator.



Please quit the bashing, or do it in a more tasteful manner

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: mjoekingz28
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Nissan101
.... are these problems fixed?


Maybe you're thinking of Purolator.



Please quit the bashing, or do it in a more tasteful manner


I must have missed something, I didn't see that as bashing. Most of the problem filters we've discussed for quite a while now were with Purolator filters. It is quite possible Nissan101 had them mixed up.

 

[mazdamonky]

Contrary to the general public's believe, Fram end caps are not cardboard, but are made out of a filtering material similar to the normal filtering material, but I believe there is more synthetic media in the end caps. If the filtering material has no problems, then the end cap should have no problems either. This helps them avoid having to spend money on metal and in some cases, their pleat counts have been recorded to be lesser than other manufacturers, but people are not accounting for the end caps being Filtering material instead of "cardboard." The Fram extra guard should be a great filter for a 5k OCI. For the price, it is hard to beat when it comes to its filtration efficiency and reliability.

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Nissan101
.... are these problems fixed?


Maybe you're thinking of Purolator.


Maybe he isn't. The OCOD won't be confused with Purolator.

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: mazdamonky
Contrary to the general public's believe, Fram end caps are not cardboard, but are made out of a filtering material similar to the normal filtering material, but I believe there is more synthetic media in the end caps. If the filtering material has no problems, then the end cap should have no problems either. This helps them avoid having to spend money on metal and in some cases, their pleat counts have been recorded to be lesser than other manufacturers, but people are not accounting for the end caps being Filtering material instead of "cardboard." The Fram extra guard should be a great filter for a 5k OCI. For the price, it is hard to beat when it comes to its filtration efficiency and reliability.


Some of the best filters from Euro have the same type of end cap as the OCOD.

 

[AirgunSavant]

For the Original poster- OCOD means "Orange Can Of Death......."
In modern times you can decipher it as "Orange Can of Deliciousness"

 

[Eddie]

orange can of delight

 

[jorton]

FRAM Extra guard

This was the prefered filter of the founder of BITOG. In early BITOG filter comparisons the orange can had higher flow rate than other economy filters.

At the same time some members passionately condemned it. There were pics and videos online of orange cans and a couple of ruined engines, and there were Bill Clinton conspiracy theories.

About 3 years ago someone cut a purolator and found a tear and we quickly found many tears, and other issues, too. Orange cans quickly improved in quality and popularity but now Donald and Hillary have some issues.

Bob was probably right. The orange can is a solid filter. You are correct. Fram bashers misguided due to social media are over-reacting.

 

[goodtimes]

It is an economy filter that does the job, but it depends if someone has the bad luck to have a major defect if it is over reacting or not. I don't understand the thinking to even buy one. If a filter is changed once a month, it costs $4 more per month to get the Ultra. Is that a lot of money? For me, if any filter shows defects, and especially if the company denies, makes fun of it, or ignores it, then I don't buy it any more. I'm running out of brands though.

 

[Nissan101]

Thanks alot for the responses

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: mjoekingz28
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Nissan101
.... are these problems fixed?


Maybe you're thinking of Purolator.



Please quit the bashing, or do it in a more tasteful manner


I must have missed something, I didn't see that as bashing. Most of the problem filters we've discussed for quite a while now were with Purolator filters. It is quite possible Nissan101 had them mixed up.


Exactly ... Purolator bashes themselves through their past history.

 

[Nissan101]

I will continue using the FRAM extra guard

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

I just can't get past the cardboard end caps.

I'll stick with metal end cap filters, like the FU.

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I just can't get past the cardboard end caps.

I'll stick with metal end cap filters, like the FU.

There not cardboard.

 

[GMBoy]

Bottom line is the OCOD is a basic economy filter that does the job. However, there are many other and arguably better choices in the same cost range or not much more. I don't like the end cap design, the ADV or the low grade filter media which often has few and spacey pleats. I'll continue to use better filters with better media, better ADV and steel end caps such as WIX, Mobil 1, Bosch, MANN and even the Fram Ultra.