I know mine was current. Which would make sense if the defect is due to worn production equipment. Safe to say the iso tested filters were early runs or pre runs of higher quality.
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Fram Endurance Flashlight Test in canister
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The filter you tested and the one from the video showing gaps are the same model. FE7317.
The date codes are shown here:
Yours on top and one in video below which is Feb 20, 2023.
Yours appears to be very recent?
Yes if Im reading correctly 2024 197th day on mine. 2023 51st day on Whips.
The WCW one could seal just fine *IF* the entire surface that mates to the end cap is flat.
FRAM Group testing of average filter efficiency of FE8A, FE3387A and FE4967 or equivalent FRAM TG or EG models under ISO 4548-12 for particles greater than 20 microns.
Now this took some digging. Bypass styles for each iso tested filter.
Now this took some digging. Bypass styles for each iso tested filter.
So, the Fram which failed flashlight in video was made in Feb 2023 and same model in this thread appears current …couple months old? Both showing gaps.
Ok, a filtration test (shown below) done in Nov 2023 on Endurance FE 3614 gave very good results. This would be BETWEEN the dates above, indicating it would have same bypass design and quality as both mentioned above.
Yes, still speculation, but I’ll wager if that was tested for gaps, we would see them.
This is the best shot I could get of the bypass on the Endurance in that test video. Unfortunately they don’t provide a close up
. It’s in the background on the right. Below that pic is a much clearer shot of the Ultra bypass which was also tested. That filter also had very good result! Should be the same bypass as Endurance.
Ok, a filtration test (shown below) done in Nov 2023 on Endurance FE 3614 gave very good results. This would be BETWEEN the dates above, indicating it would have same bypass design and quality as both mentioned above.
Yes, still speculation, but I’ll wager if that was tested for gaps, we would see them.
This is the best shot I could get of the bypass on the Endurance in that test video. Unfortunately they don’t provide a close up
. It’s in the background on the right. Below that pic is a much clearer shot of the Ultra bypass which was also tested. That filter also had very good result! Should be the same bypass as Endurance.
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If you watch the whole Whip City video, that shot of the leaf spring is after he torture tested it trying to make it seal. Don't think those marks were on it right out of the can.
If the "nubs" are done right, and don't interfere with the seating of the interface, then it shouldn't matter where they are located. However, it seemed the nubs on the SuperTech leaf spring might have prevented the leaf spring from fully seating. It was also very rough looking on top of that (ref post 134).
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I'd wager.
Agree it shouldn't matter, mostly just wanted to say that the nubs located in differently depending on which Champ filter. I also agree that on the MP7317 (like post 134) the nubs might prevent the bypass from fully seating. Or at least not deep enough on the bypass piece recess to keep light from showing. After looking at the MP bypass closely and the light ring, I actually thought that nubs on the MP a factor.
Apparently this problem goes back to at least early 2022. This is from video on failed flashlight test on Amsoil filter in Whip City vid. Here’s product date and two shots of bypass in video.
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Those wire backed white can Donaldsons are sleepers, If the sample I had did not have the media breach defect, I would have believe particle counts would have been very stellar, keeping the oil cleaner comparable to hydraulic oils level of cleanliness. An ISO 4406 code of 19/18/15 is still impressive for the 10k mileage with the minor media defect.
Anyway back on the topic, The leaf spring varies by the size of the filter. This is probably due to the size of the sheet metal feed stock being formed and to no surprise they probably didn't do a deformation analysis or the stamping house they outsource to do their engineering diligence in conjunction of Receiving/QA letting something like this through production.
I happen to pick up an FE9688 recently after learning one of the Subaru 15A blue cans filters turned out to be black so and went and exchanged it for an Endurance. Will be cutting it open later as the louvers are not very good on the sample picked up. Should be a fun exercise to inspect and measure the bypass spring pressure.
That makes more sense. It looked odd.
Look forward to it!! Thanks
This was from Whip City video comparing Fram and Amsoil filters made Oct 2022 for Amsoil and early 2023 for Fram.
Fram bypass on left Amsoil on right.
Fram bypass on left Amsoil on right.
I’d wager the FE8A, FE3387A, and FE4967 iso test subjects were not leakers. But can’t say 100%. Anyone have a sacrificial lamb?
The other
The Brand Ranks test videos indicate otherwise. I don’t see how you can use this “Sacrificial Lamb” unless some one with sophisticated test equipment also test the actual filtering capabilities? However, if your satisfied with just a flashlight test on one of those, I’m sure we’ll find some one to do it!
Cut one from your stash up. Make an actual contribution. What model FE do you have?The other
The Brand Ranks test videos indicate otherwise. I don’t see how you can use this “Sacrificial Lamb” unless some one with sophisticated test equipment also test the actual filtering capabilities? However, if your satisfied with just a flashlight test on one of those, I’m sure we’ll find some one to do it!
Nothing from Amsoil so far in response to my inquiry. They say to allow 3 business days. So, hopefully, I will hear back by Tuesday seeing as it is the weekend. When I do, I will share the correspondence here.
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