Fram Canada PH3980 C&P

[Cyoungso1]

It is with a touch of sadness that I give you a 90s Fram PH3980. Produced at the storied Stratford Ontario Plant which closed in 2012

Date Code F3178A (1993?)

This is a much heavier filter than the current PH3980. Steel is thicker, media feels heavier.

Run for approx 12,000Km in an 04 Chevy Venture 3400

 

[JC1]

Thanks for the C&P. When was this filter run?

 

[Cyoungso1]

Thanks for the C&P. When was this filter run?

from 2020 until June 2021. Clearing out my old stocks from the 90s. Still have some Pennzoil from when Costco sold filters in the 90s

 

[danez_yoda]

The cardboard endcaps where on all the way back them. I thought that was a 2000s development.

 

[Cyoungso1]

The cardboard endcaps where on all the way back them. I thought that was a 2000s development.

Yes, surprised me. I wonder if Canada made them before the US plants?

This also has a steel crimp seam on the media

 

[blufeb95]

As promised...vintage FRAM PH8 cut open

... http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3377010/Re:_NOS_Fram_PH8_filter_from_1#Post3377010 http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3377010/Re:_NOS_Fram_PH8_filter_from_1#Post3377010

bobistheoilguy.com

They've been using cellulose endcaps forever.
I'd guess it'd have to be a 1993 filter if that datecode is the right format we think it is, because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have still been printing Allied Signal on them in 2003 and I think they had the sure grip by then.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Wow ... tons of holes in the center tube.

 

[bullwinkle]

They had metal endcaps in the ’80s, I had an ancient PH8A I cut open a couple years ago.

 

[blufeb95]

They had metal endcaps in the ’80s, I had an ancient PH8A I cut open a couple years ago.

I wonder why that PH8 (not PH8A) filter from the 60s had cardboard endcaps, I'm pretty sure it was from the 60s based on the model years written on the box and the way the address is written on the box it says "Fram Corporation, Providence 16, R.I." which was how their address appears in ads in Magazines on Google Books up through 1962 but after that it's just seems to be "Fram Corporation, Providence, R.I."

 

[ZeeOSix]

The year digit in the date code is "3". So it could be 1963, 1973, 1983... etc.

 

[OVERKILL]

The year digit in the date code is "3". So it could be 1963, 1973, 1983... etc.

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If their lettering is the same as Ford, F=90's lol.

 

[ZeeOSix]

If their lettering is the same as Ford, F=90's lol.

F is the plant ... probably not the Ford plant this time.

" Date code is read like this - located On the side it will be printed horizontally starting with a Alfa then 5 digits sample would be A32471 A=Plant 3=year=247 Julian date 1= shift. "

Fram X2 vs Fram Ultra.

Hi there .. As we all know Fram X2 filters are an old filters and are no longer available by Fram's. These are similar to Ultra filters , but still i need to know what is the difference between them in terms of construction, filteration ..etc. Thank you.

bobistheoilguy.com

 

[Lubener]

The cardboard endcaps where on all the way back them. I thought that was a 2000s development.

Goes back way further than that. Seen it back in the early 70's.

 

[OVERKILL]

F is the plant ... probably not the Ford plant this time.

Fram X2 vs Fram Ultra.

Hi there .. As we all know Fram X2 filters are an old filters and are no longer available by Fram's. These are similar to Ultra filters , but still i need to know what is the difference between them in terms of construction, filteration ..etc. Thank you.

bobistheoilguy.com

Well, there goes that theory, lol.

 

[Cyoungso1]

The year digit in the date code is "3". So it could be 1963, 1973, 1983... etc.

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It has a barcode so not before the 70s. Also not sure when Allied signal took over