Or at least yet another "let's make a complaint thread about XXX or YYY or ZZZ".The drunks are certainly active today.
Today it is Ford, tomorrow it is Pennzoil, and next week I'll go on about Amsoil or GM.
Or at least yet another "let's make a complaint thread about XXX or YYY or ZZZ".The drunks are certainly active today.
can you even purchase a modern vehicle that doesn't have power steering?
last car I had without PS was a 99 hyundai accent.. and you are correct, you didn't need power steering in that.
With inoperative electric power steering you’re also fighting the rack to steer it. They’re harder to steer than inoperative hydraulic power steering.If you can't steer a lightweight 4 cylinder car without power steering, you have bigger issues to worry about. Maybe go to the gym?
You're right, different strokes for different folks. I'll be adding a third Jeep to the fleet hopefully a 2025 if things go as planned. If it's as good at the two I currently own I'll be a very happy camper, if not I'll move on. Our feelings are identical, only we differ on the brand.Different strokes for different folks. My 2010 Fusion runs everyday and every option still works.
My 22 Pacifica the dash lights up with all kinds of warning indicators randomly and who knows what the infotainment system may do and when. It probably just a module or communication network issue but when I had it scheduled with the local CDJR dealer they “didn’t get time to work it in that day”. Funny since it was scheduled a week prior and dropped off the night before it shouldn’t have need to be “worked in”.
So no more CDJR products for me. Our local dealer has a great sales team but the products are average at best and their service department is poor.
Exactly. When the electric PS died in my Cobalt I had to really muscle the wheel to barely move it at all, and I am a grown man. Even once the car was moving it was a real workout. I can only imagine how much a smaller person (my mother perhaps) would have to struggle to steer it at all.With inoperative electric power steering you’re also fighting the rack to steer it. They’re harder to steer than inoperative hydraulic power steering.
The drunks are certainly active today.
If you can't steer a lightweight 4 cylinder car without power steering, you have bigger issues to worry about. Maybe go to the gym?
What is that? A Fusion? Focus? Transit Connect? If it runs it's worth a grand...
I don't know what you're talking about
Or you don't know what you're talking about
That's a Ford/Mazda Duratec I4, one of the best engines they ever made
If you want to trade for a Mazda, maybe you don't understand what you bought (if it's a Fusion)
If I had posted this, it would have been locked even before there was a page 2.Or at least yet another "let's make a complaint thread about XXX or YYY or ZZZ".
Today it is Ford, tomorrow it is Pennzoil, and next week I'll go on about Amsoil or GM.
Y'all need to go back to the OP's previous thread to get a baseline on this vehicle and the "situation". Maybe it is a troll post after all?
Ford What???
To be frank, I shouldn't have to. Since this isnt in the maintenance area asking a technical question dont expect alot of help.Y'all need to go back to the OP's previous thread to get a baseline on this vehicle and the "situation". Maybe it is a troll post after all?
Ford What???
+2Driving that Saturn WAS my gym.
There was a recall, but after it was done, no change. Think it was just a blown fuse. Getting a workout for months, all because of a fuse.+2
Probably the same system as in my Cobalt. I kept thinking maybe there was a way to stick a long breaker bar in the rungs of the steering wheel so I could use it as a lever!
You are not lying! Why they don't have a label on each fuse box lid with exactly what and where each fuse/rely is? Most people don't even have an owner's manual so they are stuck if broken down due to a relay/fuse. Honorable mention goes to the fuse box lids of some GMs that are printed with the fuse locations and function BUT the ink is 1 shade less than black and you can't see it!I know one thing from spending my life working as a mechanic,
which is most people who get paid to work on vehicles gripe about the way Ford does things..
Ford tends to have the ability to package 11 pounds of scat into a 10 pound sack...
perfect example was me looking at my friends Super Duty.. air compressor for air bags doesn't work...
lets check the fuses... where are the fuses.? , main box is right under the area near the engine bulkhead and master cylinder..
other fuse panel ( yep they have 2) is behind the right kick panel under the dash...
can you easily see either of them? NO.
are the fuses labelled? yes, with a number.
lets look in the OM... fuse block diagram shows fuse location by number
but other fuse diagram on different pages explains what each fuse is for without a picture of where it is.
just the number.
you end up back under the hood on a ladder with your head wedged right above the firewall
or lay on the right front passenger seat somehow wedged into the footing area so you can see the fuses
both techniques also involve needing a flashlight, generallyheld in your mouth...
and the story goes on and on with Ford..
thats why you hear people say " what did you expect, its a Ford".
what did you expect, its a Ford. I think I have heard that before.You are not lying! Why they don't have a label on each fuse box lid with exactly what and where each fuse/rely is? Most people don't even have an owner's manual so they are stuck if broken down due to a relay/fuse. Honorable mention goes to the fuse box lids of some GMs that are printed with the fuse locations and function BUT the ink is 1 shade less than black and you can't see it!
What's fun is the parts catalogs don't tell us the fuse or relay function or location. Just lists part numbers that should have come with the vehicle. And of course Ford doesn't use the normal ATC type description, just "20 amp blade" type descriptions.You are not lying! Why they don't have a label on each fuse box lid with exactly what and where each fuse/rely is? Most people don't even have an owner's manual so they are stuck if broken down due to a relay/fuse. Honorable mention goes to the fuse box lids of some GMs that are printed with the fuse locations and function BUT the ink is 1 shade less than black and you can't see it!
When power steering fails on the pump type it’s near its very difficult to steer too. The non-power models are a lot easier to steer because you don’t have the drag of the power mechanism to turn too.Exactly. When the electric PS died in my Cobalt I had to really muscle the wheel to barely move it at all, and I am a grown man. Even once the car was moving it was a real workout. I can only imagine how much a smaller person (my mother perhaps) would have to struggle to steer it at all.
On the flipside are the various "traditional" non-PS cars I've driven, which were no big deal. All that's left now is my Fiero which is only barely harder to steer than the average PS car.
Maybe FORD had a better idea....I have never seen an engine like this before , they definitely built ford different and not so much tough .
I have never seen a engine where all the wires are right on top of it , and of course the power steering is electric which doesn't work but he'll my arms are getting pretty strong having to turn the corners .
It's especially fun when I'm blocked in between two other cars I have to inch my way out where a normal vehicle with power steering wouldn't have trouble getting out with one back up and forward motion.
It'll take me 5 minutes to get out of spot with a car in front and in back of me .
Yes the car was recalled because of the electric power steering fails.
.but I bought this car for $550 it runs and moves forward and backwards it's all that matters (aside the brakes working)
So anyone want to trade me for a Mazda?
(It's got to have the same 3 function as this ford though)
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