Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Trav
Not only did they stand a chance against the Japanese and Europeans they beat them at their own game for decades.
Up to about 1970 there were no other cars built in the world that could match them at the price but thanks to govt regulation and unfair import regulations the industry was ruined.
Just a few examples of what US auto makers could build when they wanted to add to these Cord, Auburn, Imperial and many more.
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/1956_57_Continental_Mark_II.html
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/cadillac_eldorado_brougham.html
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/cadillac_eldorado_brougham.html
You could argue like that that Germans were driving cars while Americans still used carriages.
Really, beat them in 1970's? cccccc Do you know automotive history.
I find it always to blame regulations and import regulations (although the U.S. has ridiculous import regulations). Did you ever have a chance to see [censored] FORD was making in Europe, or Opel (GM)? Cost cutting everywhere, gas guzzling engines etc. are not product of government regulations.
I said up to about 1970 that does not include the 70's. You need to search some more about automotive history.
In the 50's and 60's The Europeans did not make a full size car with V8, A/C, Automatic with PS and pb that was affordable by the majority of the buying public.
Not one muscle car or full size convertible. Yes the Americans beat them at their own game, the features available in the biggest MB, Bently or Roller were available to all not only the wealthy.
Europeans still do not make cars with V8 that is affordable to the general public. I am not sure full size V8 cars are practical in Paris, Berlin etc.
Many cars still in Europe do not have A/C (nor homes do).
That does not mean they were behind technologically, on contrary...
The average American worker could walk into the dealer and buy a brand new car fully equipped for that time and get a nice car without having to buy a Lincoln, Imperial or Cadillac. Owning this was normal..
For the average working person there this class of car was about it. Tell me again how the USA didn't beat them in every way.
The Japanese had very little to offer and anything European with any resemblance of comfort cost more than a new Cadillac.
American cars were the best in the world bar none!
Its a fact that anything Made in the USA back then was taxed right out of the Euro/Japanese market but they were able to sell theirs in the USA with very low duty.
To add insult to injury the foreign manufacturers subsidized USA sales and still do to some extent, at one time a BMW was a third or more cheaper in the USA for the same car. The truth is the USA shared their lunch with these countries and they ate the whole thing and the USA replied would you like some more.
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Trav
Not only did they stand a chance against the Japanese and Europeans they beat them at their own game for decades.
Up to about 1970 there were no other cars built in the world that could match them at the price but thanks to govt regulation and unfair import regulations the industry was ruined.
Just a few examples of what US auto makers could build when they wanted to add to these Cord, Auburn, Imperial and many more.
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/1956_57_Continental_Mark_II.html
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/cadillac_eldorado_brougham.html
http://www.danjedlicka.com/classic_cars/cadillac_eldorado_brougham.html
You could argue like that that Germans were driving cars while Americans still used carriages.
Really, beat them in 1970's? cccccc Do you know automotive history.
I find it always to blame regulations and import regulations (although the U.S. has ridiculous import regulations). Did you ever have a chance to see [censored] FORD was making in Europe, or Opel (GM)? Cost cutting everywhere, gas guzzling engines etc. are not product of government regulations.
I said up to about 1970 that does not include the 70's. You need to search some more about automotive history.
In the 50's and 60's The Europeans did not make a full size car with V8, A/C, Automatic with PS and pb that was affordable by the majority of the buying public.
Not one muscle car or full size convertible. Yes the Americans beat them at their own game, the features available in the biggest MB, Bently or Roller were available to all not only the wealthy.
Europeans still do not make cars with V8 that is affordable to the general public. I am not sure full size V8 cars are practical in Paris, Berlin etc.
Many cars still in Europe do not have A/C (nor homes do).
That does not mean they were behind technologically, on contrary...
The average American worker could walk into the dealer and buy a brand new car fully equipped for that time and get a nice car without having to buy a Lincoln, Imperial or Cadillac. Owning this was normal..
For the average working person there this class of car was about it. Tell me again how the USA didn't beat them in every way.
The Japanese had very little to offer and anything European with any resemblance of comfort cost more than a new Cadillac.
American cars were the best in the world bar none!
Its a fact that anything Made in the USA back then was taxed right out of the Euro/Japanese market but they were able to sell theirs in the USA with very low duty.
To add insult to injury the foreign manufacturers subsidized USA sales and still do to some extent, at one time a BMW was a third or more cheaper in the USA for the same car. The truth is the USA shared their lunch with these countries and they ate the whole thing and the USA replied would you like some more.
