+1 But remember common sense these days isn't very common.You would think at some point common sense would say hey I don't want to get blasted in the face with an air bag
Ford issues "do not drive" advisory for Takata airbags
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I hope they issuing loaner cars and trucks with those "do not drive orders".
They can’t force anyone to stop driving their cars, at least not yet…
I'm very strict with getting airbag recalls completed
Many people buy used, or simply never return to the dealer for maintenance
They get your info from DMV registration records, but my experience is that's hit or miss
When I first bought the Milan and later the Fusion, first stop once they were registered and insured was my local (God awful) Ford store
One was same day, another I left for 3 days, but I have other cars to drive
When I do work on someone's car, I usually like to get the VIN so I know what I'm working on
I use www.checktoprotect.org to get the VIN off the plate #
Nearly ever car has at least one open recall, often more
And these are 10-20 year old cars that they've owned for at least ~5 years
In the past two years, when you go for NYS Inspection, it'll tell you if you have an open recall with the inspection printout
You'll get one in the mail with your new registration sticker too
Do better people
According to Ford, roughly 375,000 vehicles were impacted by the recalls in the United States, with 95 percent having completed the fix.
So only 18,750 to go?
Many people buy used, or simply never return to the dealer for maintenance
They get your info from DMV registration records, but my experience is that's hit or miss
When I first bought the Milan and later the Fusion, first stop once they were registered and insured was my local (God awful) Ford store
One was same day, another I left for 3 days, but I have other cars to drive
When I do work on someone's car, I usually like to get the VIN so I know what I'm working on
I use www.checktoprotect.org to get the VIN off the plate #
Nearly ever car has at least one open recall, often more
And these are 10-20 year old cars that they've owned for at least ~5 years
In the past two years, when you go for NYS Inspection, it'll tell you if you have an open recall with the inspection printout
You'll get one in the mail with your new registration sticker too
Do better people
According to Ford, roughly 375,000 vehicles were impacted by the recalls in the United States, with 95 percent having completed the fix.
So only 18,750 to go?
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I guess you have no idea what the cause of the airbag recall is then? It is the little tin can packed with the special dust that can cause over pressure and go poof, thus turning said tin can into high velocity shrapnel that can, (A) Poke out your eyes. (B) Cut major artery's and causing death. If like you say they have been designed to instantly bleed off the pressure then why are they blowing up?
Easy because (1) they are not designed to hold the high pressure that can in certain cases happen. (2) they have no special high pressure release system and exhaust or pressure direction system to make sure the gases in these instances are directed away from the guinea pig, sitting behind the steering wheel. Seat belts save lives airbags can protect whiplash into the steer wheel or windshield.
Air bags have also caused many lives to be lost as well. Especially short small women, just do the study.
I like the idea of airbags I just don't like the inflators they have decided to use for them. Or the materials of low cost to the maker that are the main cause of the problems. Oh and by the way they still use the same propellant. And for replacement ones NTHSA is in a waiting mode to see if any replacement ones will also have to be recalled. Again do the search.
Your post came of as condemning the entire technology. Everyone should know by now that the Takata design shoots out shrapnel, it has only been in the news for 10+ years now.
Properly designed and manufactured airbags have none of the problems you list. The lives lost are generally from first generation units and people not wearing their seatbelts with them. Newer systems with computer controls are worlds safer with deployment methods and timings to take into account many variables, not just full send 100% of the time.
You're coming off as old man yelling at cloud.
GM did use Takata. I bought a 2009 Silverado 2500 last year from the company I work for and I started getting recall letters in the mail almost immediately.
The fix took about 30 minutes at the dealer.
The air bags are properly designed. The Inflator is not. It is still a thin sheet metal tin can under the air bag in your steering wheel, filled with the same Anfo with a desiccant, that will at some point be saturated then back to square one. The vessel holding that stuff is the same weak design that will turn into shrapnel. I'm just a person that does not want to see people loose their eye sight, simple as that.
Anfo? Sodium Azide is nowhere near the same thing as Anfo.
So, which is it? Airbags hurting small people or takata inflators that should be replaced hurting people? You've argued about 10 different things now.
They stopped the Sodium Azide years ago, the claim it was too toxic, and too hot?
It mentions compressed gas, so maybe someday we will have safe airbags, I hope so.
https://cen.acs.org/safety/chemicals-make-airbags-inflate-changed/100/i41
It mentions compressed gas, so maybe someday we will have safe airbags, I hope so.
https://cen.acs.org/safety/chemicals-make-airbags-inflate-changed/100/i41
Shouldn’t service be handling that - receptionists unless they’re part of the BDC work for sales primarily?
That was the Takata design using phase-stabilized ammonium nitrate with a azole - more “environmentally friendly” than the older Morton Thiokol(Autoliv) sodium azide design, with a bonus of being cheaper. Only Takata was using that - Autoliv and TRW were using alternative chemistries. Now, the hybrid gas inflator combining the pyrotechnic gas generator and a cylinder of liquid argon/nitrogen is common now. Hyundai has been using those all around.
If you think an airbag is bad, well if you drive a Toyota hybrid(or a 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX or LX), an older VW/Audi/Saab/Lincoln with an ATE ABS system or an old Honda with their in-house ABS system, there’s a small pressure cylinder under the hood that as much pressure as a scuba tank - the hydraulic accumulator for the brake actuator or the brake booster.
Nice if they have better propellant then all Anfo stuff should be recalled and replaced, as of yesterday. Problem is most all have not and still are made with it. It would still be nice to see an improvement in the thickness and an emergency over pressure system integrated into the metal container for the propellant.
(more “environmentally friendly” than the older Morton Thiokol(Autoliv) sodium azide design, with a bonus of being cheaper.)
, Yeah nice some have died or suffered greatly because.
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My fiancé had both of the airbags replaced in her 2007 Mustang GT and I had both replaced in my 2014 Mustang GT.
Almost everyone used Takata. Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Ford, GM and even Ferrari was affected. Takata bought out Petri, who supplied BMW and Mercedes with steering wheels with airbags. Honda was the most affected. Interestingly enough, the GM 3-spoke steering wheel used in the mid-2000s to early 2010s was also used by Subaru and Saab didn’t use a Takata inflator.
