Ford "PTO" on an Edge

[Kira]

Hello, Does anybody have any experience with the PTO or "transfer case" of a Ford Edge?
A friend's daughter has a fried one in a 2007.
A Ford dealer quotes a new one at $904. Are rebuilds available?
The same dealer said they take 5-6 hours at $125 each to replace.

I need info going in. TIA Kira

 

[Roadkingnc]

Are the internals damaged or is it just leaking? If it is leaking it can be resealed but if its noisy will need replaced, aftermarket remans are available but from what I see they aren't much cheaper than a new one.
If they are going to keep the car I would recommend the new one because of the warranty it would have.
The most common problem is that the seals between the trans and ptu fail and transmission fluid goes into the ptu overfilling it and causing black fluid to leak out of the vent. This almost never damages the internals an resealing it will be all it needs.

 

[donnyj08]

That is a common problem. My uncle runs a shop and he does them regularly. He can get the "PTU" from ford for about $780 on his commercial account. He charges $65 an hour to change it. Generally takes him 4-5 hours depending on how rusty the exhaust studs are.

Have another reputable shop give you a quote. They can usually match the dealers part cost and install for a lot less per hour. The Edge AWD is super picky. If any of the tires are worn uneven, or mismatched the "PTU" will go bad. It is a super weak form of AWD transfer case.

 

[Doog]

Originally Posted By: donnyj08
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The Edge AWD is super picky. If any of the tires are worn uneven, or mismatched the "PTU" will go bad. It is a super weak form of AWD transfer case.


No the cause is the diameter of a mismatched tire set (L to R side) causes each wheel speed sensor to report a differen amount of revolutions to the ECM. So the ECM thinks the wheel with the higher count is slipping and turns on the AWD. Then when the vehicle comes to a stop or the driver steps on the brake it shuts off. Then when the driver accelerates it turns on again...over and over and over until it wears out the actuator clutches after 2-300,000 cycles. Which would under normal cycles be about 200,000+ miles or 15 years of driving.

If you read the owners manual it will clearly tell you to replace F&R tires in sets.

Most GM transfer cases that have an "AUTO 4WD" setting will do the same thing

 

[donnyj08]

Originally Posted By: Doog
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
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The Edge AWD is super picky. If any of the tires are worn uneven, or mismatched the "PTU" will go bad. It is a super weak form of AWD transfer case.


No the cause is the diameter of a mismatched tire set (L to R side) causes each wheel speed sensor to report a differen amount of revolutions to the ECM. So the ECM thinks the wheel with the higher count is slipping and turns on the AWD. Then when the vehicle comes to a stop or the driver steps on the brake it shuts off. Then when the driver accelerates it turns on again...over and over and over until it wears out the actuator clutches after 2-300,000 cycles. Which would under normal cycles be about 200,000+ miles or 15 years of driving.

If you read the owners manual it will clearly tell you to replace F&R tires in sets.

Most GM transfer cases that have an "AUTO 4WD" setting will do the same thing


You're essentially saying the same thing I was. Replacing all the tires at the same time on any AWD or auto 4x4 has always been a necessity. I've seen several go bad due to people not running matching sets of tires.

You are just explaining what I was attempting to say in detail lol.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Doog
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
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The Edge AWD is super picky. If any of the tires are worn uneven, or mismatched the "PTU" will go bad. It is a super weak form of AWD transfer case.


No the cause is the diameter of a mismatched tire set (L to R side) causes each wheel speed sensor to report a differen amount of revolutions to the ECM. So the ECM thinks the wheel with the higher count is slipping and turns on the AWD. Then when the vehicle comes to a stop or the driver steps on the brake it shuts off. Then when the driver accelerates it turns on again...over and over and over until it wears out the actuator clutches after 2-300,000 cycles. Which would under normal cycles be about 200,000+ miles or 15 years of driving.

If you read the owners manual it will clearly tell you to replace F&R tires in sets.

Most GM transfer cases that have an "AUTO 4WD" setting will do the same thing


Chev's auto 4wd and their awd system are different in more ways than similar so your comparison isn't accurate.

The auto 4wd runs in rwd til IT senses slip then engages the front tires. The awd system is always engaged and transfers 62% of power to the rear and 38% to the front at all times.
The 2 systems aren't the same and aren't similar in their engagement. Having owned 3 trucks,one of each system I am intimately aware of each.