I thought religion was taboo around here.
Ford loses 3 billion on EV
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I mean it obviously exists. I drove it to lunch today. I think... Maybe I imagined that.
Indeed. It's a very very small figure of only 42 percent. How will car companies manage
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-cars-ap-norc-poll-should-i-buy-an-ev/
This is why the credit needs yanked. The car will still sell. The only reason why sales dropped when the credit was pulled was because everyone knew it was temporary. If it was gone and stayed gone I don't think it would make a difference other than Tesla lowering prices again to kick start sales and then slowly raise them up over time like they have. If that's the difference between affording the car or not, someone is buying more car than they can comfortably afford.
Absolutely agree. We certainly do need to invest in more solid carbon-to-electricity conversion plants to power these EVs. We also need to limit imports of rare earth products and photovoltaics from one specific country, perhaps banning imports of those specific products outright from that monopolilistic state. Invest in America.
Which part is the religion? Hating all electric cars because they don't run on processed dinosaur juice? I don't understand what makes Tesla vaporware. Certain models? Sure the Cybertruck and Roadster may never happen. The other cars are selling and selling well. There are plenty of vaporware companies out there that haven't produced and delivered a single car to anyone. The Tesla in my garage exists just the same as the VW next to it.
Does Elon attract stupid attention? Sure! I can't disagree with that. That's the majority of the "vaporware" problem with certain parts of their business. What they have made is great. He just has a really poor way of showing concepts to drum up business that looks bad on the wait time side. The stuff they actually produce delivers fast. I expected to wait a long time for the car and it was maybe 6 weeks. I can live with that.
I would put that survey into the same can this one ended up in.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ry-clinton-donald-trump-victory-a7399671.html
Of course you would.
Sure sounds like it says they would consider it. Not that they were going to buy one. That's what the word may tends to mean. Although it could just mean that the crowd that is loud about EVs being the end of the world is smaller than you think.
The equivalent today would be the government to invest in a better electrical grid, so we could charge them, or fund darpa to come up with a better battery everyone could use. Not hand out money to the rich people buying the actual car who would likely buy one anyway. It simply ends up as an additional $7500 in margin for the OEM. Its not the same as building roads in 1913.
I wish I could participate in one of those would you buy an EV survey. I'm sure the EV lovers would toss my survey in the trash.
Its all good, we no longer need to go to church we can buy one of these and worship from home.
Oh, please. The entire DOD budget is less than 16% of Federal spending, so spare us the conspiracy theory/political slant on Federal budgeting.
If you're referring to the world's tallest building in Dubai, you are leaving out one small detail. The U.A.E. is soaked with cash. We're not. Stupid as it may be, they can afford to build skyscrapers and refrigerated ski slopes in the desert.
Their entire national debt is only 51% of their total GDP of just one year. Compare that to our national debt of $33 TRILLION, that is increasing by TRILLIONS more every year. All with no current plan to break even, let alone pay it off because we ran a continual deficit that does nothing but grow.
If we had Dubai's cash and lack of debt, sure, we can screw with government subsidised EV's, charging stations, buying bonuses for consumers, and everything else.
Dubai is constantly updating their power requirements by adding new everything as they expand. We can't even fix what we currently have.... All of which is in horrible disrepair. Because there is no money to fix it with.
We are currently trying to extend our debt ceiling yet again. All because we waste so much money. Dubai has it to waste. We don't. We don't even have it to spend, unless we print it..... While they pump it through a meter that rains cash on them.
EV's will not bring about, "the end of the world". Our broke government trying to pay companies to make them, while at the same time paying people to buy them just might.
Ok let's ask the question a different way.
Whats been spent on the 5th fleet alone in the last 30 years, and given a choice to spend that at home on our infrastructure or to keep spending it that way which would you chose?
Dubai is just one city.
If you have a choice to spend our money here or there which do you chose?
Agreed, but there are adjusted income limits:
- $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
- $225,000 for heads of households
- $150,000 for all other filers
Gee, what products do the UAE produce? Just who is buying all that sand, or whatever it is they sell to be so dang wealthy?
That's funny considering I think there's maybe 3 people here who like him.