Ford Factory Filter?

[Brian Miller_dup1]

I just drained the factory fill in my new '04 Ranger with the 3.0 V6 (the oil was green, but that's a different post). I pulled off the factory oil filter; it wasn't a Purolator (Motorcraft). It was gray, and had the mounting plate of a Champion (the one bigger hole), and the can was thicker (you can squeeze a Purolator and it gives).

It did have the orange silicon ADBV. The valve was very thin though. I put a screwdriver in the hole to open the valve to drain the oil (like I always do), and the screwdriver went right through the valve

I'm just gonna have to cut this one open! I put a Motorcraft on there, and I want to cut it open to compare the two.

Has anyone else seen these filters instead of the OEM Motorcrafts on new Fords?

Brian

 

[JustinH]

the factory uses a different oil filter color than what is available over the counter. I would assume its a motorcraft part, but I can not confirm that.

JH

 

[mikep]

Two years ago (give or take a couple of months) I had a conversation with a Champion Labs tech and he said they do in fact make the Ford factory installed oil filters (at least the one of the F150).

 

[MNgopher]

Its been this way for many many years now. Factory filters are champions, aftermarkets are purolators.

An easy way to determine if the filter was ever changed after delivery on a new vehicle warranty!

 

[jthorner]

If you like a robust feeling filter, try a Baldwin sometime.

John

 

[Brian Miller_dup1]

Other than the fact that the Champion factory filter had a really thin ADBV, I liked the "feel" of the Champion better than the Motorcraft "Purolator". Purolator's just feel flimsy to me??

I think when I switch this truck over to M1 0w-20, I'm going to go with a Wix.

It may cost a little more, but it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling.

Right now, I'll stick with Motorcraft 5w-20 and Motorcraft filters until it's M1 time!

Brian

 

[T-Keith]

I like Purolator's contruction best, their ADBV is actually a little thinner than the Champions, maybe felt weaker because it was used.

-T

 

[SHOZ]

Where are you going to get the OEM filter? Ford dealers don't have them.

 

[T-Keith]

No need to. The OEM filter would still be motorcraft. This is just a cheap filter for them to spin on at the factory, probably for the above filters mentioned. They are probably inferior to Motorcraft filters.

-T

 

[Whimsey]

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Originally posted by T-Keith:
No need to. The OEM filter would still be motorcraft. This is just a cheap filter for them to spin on at the factory, probably for the above filters mentioned. They are probably inferior to Motorcraft filters.

-T

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I would suspect it's just the opposite. Ford is assuming you are going to do your FIRST oil change at 5,000 miles. There is going to be all that initial manufacturing debris that this filter has to catch. And it still provide good flow while doing it. After the first oil change the debris is lessened or gone from the engine so the subsequent filters don't have to be as "heavy duty".

Whimsey

 

[T-Keith]

It's a no-name champion labs filter, with a nitrile ADBV, that's why I suspected it's not as good. Purolator filtes also seem to have the most capaicity. My guess would be more that it's more for the MNGopher posted. I'd doubt it's something you can't find in another champion labs filter: Supertech, Mobil 1, K&N, AC delco, Champ, STP, ect.

-T

 

[Whimsey]

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Originally posted by T-Keith:
It's a no-name champion labs filter, with a nitrile ADBV, that's why I suspected it's not as good. Purolator filtes also seem to have the most capaicity. My guess would be more that it's more for the MNGopher posted. I'd doubt it's something you can't find in another champion labs filter: Supertech, Mobil 1, K&N, AC delco, Champ, STP, ect.

-T

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I believe Brian Miller said the ADBV was orange in the Ford factory filter. Orange ADBV are usually silcon and not nitrile. Do you know something we don't know? Plus as I said before it just doesn't make sense for Ford to put a cheap oil filter on during the roughist time of the engines life. And then put a "better" oil filter on afterwards. If you know something different please share it with us. I would've hated to be one of those millions of new Ford owners that left their oil in for the recommended 5,000 mile intitial oil change interval if Ford supplied a substandard oil filter as you suggested and then puts a quality oil filter in afterwards.

Whimsey

 

[T-Keith]

The one I pulled off a new ranger had a black(nitrile) ADBV, I don't know if it's the case for all. I'm not saying it's a substandard filter. I'm sure it meets all manufactorers guidlines, just as all filters do, even Frams. I just don't see the need to seak out a filter, when there are probably others out there that are better, like Ford's Motorcraft filters. Yes I think they are better, but not to the extent that the factory one will harm the engine, just that they have better construction and materials.

-T