The large battery size is all the more reason it should actually average much closer to 200KWH than the 100 it does from 0-80%.
Flatly put when it comes to charging speed - it's a total dog.
Ford F-150 Lightning named MotorTrend Truck of the Year
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The large battery size is all the more reason it should actually average much closer to 200KWH than the 100 it does from 0-80%.
Flatly put when it comes to charging speed - it's a total dog.
Sooo, heat dissipation is what they didn't solve, I'm assuming, since an extended range Model S has a battery about the same size as the standard range Lightning, yet can charge DC direct at 250kW?
Not sure what ford is doing, Ive not seen a hot weather full load towing test
It APPEARS they have discharge temps under control, but are throttling charge speeds quite a bit.
S is a little older but still competitive. Pretty sure it tops at 150 but holds it quite a while before sagging.I think the X is the same?
The current 2160 format 3,Y, peak at 250 on a supercharger - but "peaks" aside they have a much more robust curve carrying far more current for a much longer time. 15 minutes stops are a reality in these cars.
The upcoming 4680 will be a nice bump from today
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Sounds like a nice truck. The independent rear suspension and quiet, smooth motors made it VASTLY more refined than any other F-150. Hopefully they can drop the price with the 2nd generation and new Ford/SK battery plants. Should see faster charging and much longer range too.
I’m more interested in the Silverado EV. All the pros of the Hummer EV drivetrain without the cons of driving a Hummer. Better aero, lighter (hopefully), ditch the ridiculous 35” MT tires, giant 200+ kWh battery, 350kw peak charging, etc. I’m guessing it’ll get past 400miles in 70 MPH range tests. Hopefully close to 200 miles towing.
I’m more interested in the Silverado EV. All the pros of the Hummer EV drivetrain without the cons of driving a Hummer. Better aero, lighter (hopefully), ditch the ridiculous 35” MT tires, giant 200+ kWh battery, 350kw peak charging, etc. I’m guessing it’ll get past 400miles in 70 MPH range tests. Hopefully close to 200 miles towing.
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If it charges anything like the hummer it will outperform the ford handily.
Maybe i'm mis-remembering but didn't i read the the extended range ones have some sort of dual charging? Can't find it now...
I'm sure. They will be more accepted there than anywhere else. I'm sure they'll sell well too because the market is really seeking more electric vehicles so we aren't all driving Teslas. lol Honestly I'd be interested but I don't need a full size truck anymore. I'd still have my F150 if I did.
GM recently patented a dual-charging setup. Might be that?
https://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-ultium-ev-truck-dual-charging-port-patent/amp/
Hmm i found this on fords FAQ:
and also:
https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...ightning-charging-frequently-asked-questions/
I guess i'm confused about what a DUAL On Board Charger is.
and also:
https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...ightning-charging-frequently-asked-questions/
I guess i'm confused about what a DUAL On Board Charger is.
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Nice, but only you can’t work or taw or go anywhere far with it , i guess is great truck if you park it in your driveway….. ev suck !!
In celebration of this honor, Ford has raised the price of this pickup.
The article says that the price is now up 40% since the launch. If true that is astonishing.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/16/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup-gets-another-price-hike.html
The article says that the price is now up 40% since the launch. If true that is astonishing.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/16/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup-gets-another-price-hike.html
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I work at a huge Ford Dealership that mainly sells F150’s and the Superdutys. We’ve only had two Ford lightnings get sold this whole year (2022). That’s really really bad. We stopped putting in allocations for lightnings a while ago.
We have 5 lightnings that has been sitting on the lot for well over 5-6 months now and that’s really really really bad. Nobody wants the lightning. We do sell a whole lot of regular ICE F150 top trim vehicles such as the Lariat, Platinum, Limited, King Ranch and etc that are far more expensive than any of the Lightning trims we have in stock but the lightnings are just really hard to sell.
Nobody actually wants the lightning. It seems like the Lightning’s aren’t just selling as well as Ford probably thought it would. It might sell better in the future, but I think the whole “electric lightning” was kind of a flop.
Most people that want electric vehicles buy the Hybrid Maverick, Escape, or Explorers. Most people that buy F150’s don’t even want an electric power train.
Also, the lighting is just too expensive. I believe the base model lightning starts at around $45k. But with dealer markups, it’s impossible to find one below 65k. Most Lightnings we have are $85k+ with markups. But the thing is, we sell a whole bunch of top trim F150’s that are $90k+, so it just seems the lightnings aren’t selling well because nobody actually wants them. Who would spend $85k on a F150 lightning with not the nicest interior when they can just buy like a regular Limited or a King Ranch F150 for the same price or even less. I know I wouldn’t.
This whole “Motortrend Truck of the year” thing is nothing but a marketing thing, just to make people think the Lightning is actually in high demand, when it really isn’t. Ford just paid Motortrend a lot of money to put their “Lightning” name on the spot light because it ain’t selling well at all. Why was RAM not able to put their name on the Top this year? Because Ford paid more money than RAM this year. That’s why.
Also, I’m sure a lot of people have seen many news articles that claim something like “Ford can’t keep up with the Ford Lightning Demand. Tens of thousands of people have put their deposits down and have been waiting for over a year to get their Lightnings delivered from Detroit Michigan.” These types of articles are 9 times out of 10 complete made up nonsense. They just say this so people feel like they need to buy it. Also, if these types of articles are true, many times most people that put deposits in won’t actually buy the vehicle. So it really doesn’t mean much.
These types of articles pop up all the time, not just on Ford lightnings but on many other makes and models of vehicles. Don’t trust these articles.
We have 5 lightnings that has been sitting on the lot for well over 5-6 months now and that’s really really really bad. Nobody wants the lightning. We do sell a whole lot of regular ICE F150 top trim vehicles such as the Lariat, Platinum, Limited, King Ranch and etc that are far more expensive than any of the Lightning trims we have in stock but the lightnings are just really hard to sell.
Nobody actually wants the lightning. It seems like the Lightning’s aren’t just selling as well as Ford probably thought it would. It might sell better in the future, but I think the whole “electric lightning” was kind of a flop.
Most people that want electric vehicles buy the Hybrid Maverick, Escape, or Explorers. Most people that buy F150’s don’t even want an electric power train.
Also, the lighting is just too expensive. I believe the base model lightning starts at around $45k. But with dealer markups, it’s impossible to find one below 65k. Most Lightnings we have are $85k+ with markups. But the thing is, we sell a whole bunch of top trim F150’s that are $90k+, so it just seems the lightnings aren’t selling well because nobody actually wants them. Who would spend $85k on a F150 lightning with not the nicest interior when they can just buy like a regular Limited or a King Ranch F150 for the same price or even less. I know I wouldn’t.
This whole “Motortrend Truck of the year” thing is nothing but a marketing thing, just to make people think the Lightning is actually in high demand, when it really isn’t. Ford just paid Motortrend a lot of money to put their “Lightning” name on the spot light because it ain’t selling well at all. Why was RAM not able to put their name on the Top this year? Because Ford paid more money than RAM this year. That’s why.
Also, I’m sure a lot of people have seen many news articles that claim something like “Ford can’t keep up with the Ford Lightning Demand. Tens of thousands of people have put their deposits down and have been waiting for over a year to get their Lightnings delivered from Detroit Michigan.” These types of articles are 9 times out of 10 complete made up nonsense. They just say this so people feel like they need to buy it. Also, if these types of articles are true, many times most people that put deposits in won’t actually buy the vehicle. So it really doesn’t mean much.
These types of articles pop up all the time, not just on Ford lightnings but on many other makes and models of vehicles. Don’t trust these articles.
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