Ford 2.7 - Bad batch of valves
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Outsourced parts?
...the failures were attributed to a bad batch of valves that Ford received from one of its suppliers...
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At the retail price of those things they can afford to replace the engine a few times without loosing money. They went el cheapo on parts and now has to pay the price, they got what they ordered. Unfortunately the customer takes it in the behind as usual.
In the world of electronics, we, the consumers, are frequently "beta testers". What a hep moniker that is.
In the world of cars & trucks, we're the jerks who have no choice but to return. What a stinkin' industry it is.
Just how can customers "demand" better vehicles?
In the world of cars & trucks, we're the jerks who have no choice but to return. What a stinkin' industry it is.
Just how can customers "demand" better vehicles?
Buy more reliable brands and models within brands?
I'm pretty sure that the 2.7 Ecoboost is a cross platform engine?
Yes, you’d think it would be beyond bulletproof by now. gotta say, I’m more than a little annoyed with Ford (my fav car company)
From a thread called “2.7l blown engine fail list” on BRONCO6g.com
1) @mmcq - thread** - July 22, 1146 mi
2) Jose Hernandez - posted - ~Dec 2
3) @jeremy.wilson237 - 1st post, further - Dec 8, 2012 mi
4) @ToddGinGA - 1st post, update - Dec 5, 1358 mi
5) @Bubbabow - 1st post, update - Nov 21, 4000 mi
6) @Nikole - 1st post - ~Nov 1, 2900 mi
7) @Hailey Jo - 1st post - Dec 4, 3581 mi
8) @Lance103222 - 1st post - Dec 23, 2024 mi, new 2.7L**
9) Seb Gray - posted, further - Jan 23, 3800 mi
10) @estone28 - thread** - Oct 21, 1466 mi
11) Steve Seale - posted - Oct 22, 003 mi
12) @Broncoshrimp - thread** - Sept 10, 2380 mi, new 2.7L
13) charr124@BN - 1st post, posted, update - Oct 14, 1524 mi
14) @yogi_stvl - 1st post, further, updates - Sept 21, 1578 mi
15) Bill Thorpe @FB - posted - Jan 6, ~ 2700 mi
16) @roofone - posted - Sept ?
17) @69 Mach I - thread** - Nov 14, 2744 mi, new 2.7L**
18) @Broncitis - posted, update - Nov 5, 2199 mi
19) @Broncitis - replacement failed - Dec 2, 2200 mi
20) @International_George - thread** - Dec 24, 1795 mi, new 2.7L**
21) @Slosh1 - update, further - Dec 31, 3163 mi
22) @JollyFolly - 1st post, update - Jan 8, 4552 mi, new 2.7L -AB
23) @SS Hawk - 1st post - Jan 8, 1238 mi
24) @69-300 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1700 mi, new 2.7L -AB
25) @icarus - 1st post, update - Jan 12, 3153 mi, new 2.7L
26) @TravisC91 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1900 mi
27) @ChadJohnson - 1st post, update - Dec 10, 2900 mi
28) @Lv429 - 1st post - Jan 18, 2058 mi
29) - Confidential - Nov 9, 2906 mi
30) @ScottTexas - 1st post, posted - Jan 19, 4171 mi
31) @matthiggins - 1st post, update - Jan 15, 4547 mi
32) @yogi_stvl - replacement failed - Oct, 1580 mi
33) @blanchardsbronco - 1st post - Jan 29, 4412 mi, new 2.7L -AB
34) @CanuckJeff - 1st post, update - Feb 7, 2277 mi
35) @KnoxGnater - update - Feb 6, 6618 mi, new 2.7L -AB
36) @SLAY - 1st post - Feb 13, 984 mi, March new 2.7L -AB
37) @Jaycefox - 1st post - Dec 11, 1166 mi, buyback
38) @KrazeeEyezKilla - 1st post, update - Feb 14, 2548 mi, new 2.7L -AB
39) @CA_Badlands - 1st post - Feb 22, 3184 mi, March new 2.7L -AB
40) @Jon_MothaFkn_Adams - 1st post - Feb 24, 6986 mi, new 2.7L -AB
41) @Kess - 1st post - Feb 28, 1680 mi
42) Dorian Reyna - posted - March 7
43) lucythebronco - by DM, & posted - March 7, 4478 mi
44) @Mataxis - 1st post - March 13, 3818 mi, new 2.7L -AB
45) Nick Brown @FB - posted - April 11, ~ 7k mi
46) T.J. Walsh @FB - posted - April 21, ~ 3300 mi
On a post following this, they speak of one person who is on their 3rd engine. What a punch in the gut this must be.
1) @mmcq - thread** - July 22, 1146 mi
2) Jose Hernandez - posted - ~Dec 2
3) @jeremy.wilson237 - 1st post, further - Dec 8, 2012 mi
4) @ToddGinGA - 1st post, update - Dec 5, 1358 mi
5) @Bubbabow - 1st post, update - Nov 21, 4000 mi
6) @Nikole - 1st post - ~Nov 1, 2900 mi
7) @Hailey Jo - 1st post - Dec 4, 3581 mi
8) @Lance103222 - 1st post - Dec 23, 2024 mi, new 2.7L**
9) Seb Gray - posted, further - Jan 23, 3800 mi
10) @estone28 - thread** - Oct 21, 1466 mi
11) Steve Seale - posted - Oct 22, 003 mi
12) @Broncoshrimp - thread** - Sept 10, 2380 mi, new 2.7L
13) charr124@BN - 1st post, posted, update - Oct 14, 1524 mi
14) @yogi_stvl - 1st post, further, updates - Sept 21, 1578 mi
15) Bill Thorpe @FB - posted - Jan 6, ~ 2700 mi
16) @roofone - posted - Sept ?
17) @69 Mach I - thread** - Nov 14, 2744 mi, new 2.7L**
18) @Broncitis - posted, update - Nov 5, 2199 mi
19) @Broncitis - replacement failed - Dec 2, 2200 mi
20) @International_George - thread** - Dec 24, 1795 mi, new 2.7L**
21) @Slosh1 - update, further - Dec 31, 3163 mi
22) @JollyFolly - 1st post, update - Jan 8, 4552 mi, new 2.7L -AB
23) @SS Hawk - 1st post - Jan 8, 1238 mi
24) @69-300 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1700 mi, new 2.7L -AB
25) @icarus - 1st post, update - Jan 12, 3153 mi, new 2.7L
26) @TravisC91 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1900 mi
27) @ChadJohnson - 1st post, update - Dec 10, 2900 mi
28) @Lv429 - 1st post - Jan 18, 2058 mi
29) - Confidential - Nov 9, 2906 mi
30) @ScottTexas - 1st post, posted - Jan 19, 4171 mi
31) @matthiggins - 1st post, update - Jan 15, 4547 mi
32) @yogi_stvl - replacement failed - Oct, 1580 mi
33) @blanchardsbronco - 1st post - Jan 29, 4412 mi, new 2.7L -AB
34) @CanuckJeff - 1st post, update - Feb 7, 2277 mi
35) @KnoxGnater - update - Feb 6, 6618 mi, new 2.7L -AB
36) @SLAY - 1st post - Feb 13, 984 mi, March new 2.7L -AB
37) @Jaycefox - 1st post - Dec 11, 1166 mi, buyback
38) @KrazeeEyezKilla - 1st post, update - Feb 14, 2548 mi, new 2.7L -AB
39) @CA_Badlands - 1st post - Feb 22, 3184 mi, March new 2.7L -AB
40) @Jon_MothaFkn_Adams - 1st post - Feb 24, 6986 mi, new 2.7L -AB
41) @Kess - 1st post - Feb 28, 1680 mi
42) Dorian Reyna - posted - March 7
43) lucythebronco - by DM, & posted - March 7, 4478 mi
44) @Mataxis - 1st post - March 13, 3818 mi, new 2.7L -AB
45) Nick Brown @FB - posted - April 11, ~ 7k mi
46) T.J. Walsh @FB - posted - April 21, ~ 3300 mi
On a post following this, they speak of one person who is on their 3rd engine. What a punch in the gut this must be.
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The article mentions that this is a second generation of that engine.
Definitely not good news.
The 2.7 debuted in 2015 in the F150 and Edge as a direct injected, twin turbo V6. The second generation came in 2018 with the addition of dual injection. The second generation has been sold in more F150s than any of the other engines (3.3 NA, 3.0 Diesel, 3.5 Eco and 5.0 V8). While this latest issue is incredibly frustrating to those affected, there are hundreds of thousands of these on the road today and holding up very well. This should NEVER happen to a car buyer, but it isn't exactly an epidemic for this engine. The bronco version has a few more hp and torque than the truck version. Probably just the tuning, but maybe different valvetrain than the PU gets:
Applications
325 hp (242 kW) at 5000 rpm, 400 lb⋅ft (542 N⋅m) at 2750 rpm
2018– Ford F-150
330 hp (246 kW) at 5250 rpm and 415 lb⋅ft (563 N⋅m) at 3100 rpm
2021– Ford Bronco
Applications
325 hp (242 kW) at 5000 rpm, 400 lb⋅ft (542 N⋅m) at 2750 rpm
2018– Ford F-150
330 hp (246 kW) at 5250 rpm and 415 lb⋅ft (563 N⋅m) at 3100 rpm
2021– Ford Bronco
Exactly, if they can save 2 cents a part they go with it.
This sounds worse than the whole Chrysler / Fiat Eco Diesel debacle.
Today we have all of these ISO 9000 rated companies. Six Sigma Certification, and all but countless other programs that assure precision tolerance checking, along with precise assembly procedures. All to assure the customer is getting a well manufactured product, with a minimum reject rate.
Then they build it with garbage parts, and it falls apart anyway. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Today we have all of these ISO 9000 rated companies. Six Sigma Certification, and all but countless other programs that assure precision tolerance checking, along with precise assembly procedures. All to assure the customer is getting a well manufactured product, with a minimum reject rate.
Then they build it with garbage parts, and it falls apart anyway. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I gave up on Ford years ago. I was the poster child for them, not anymore.
Ford is probably my favorite as far as domestic manufacturers go but they disappoint me with their hit or miss quality control. I know that they're fully capable of building quality vehicles when they want to.
If today's modern equipment is used to its fullest capability, that description fits most every automobile manufacturer in business today.
NHTSA investigating Ford Bronco 'catastrophic engine failure' reports
NHTSA is looking into reports of catastrophic engine failure happening to 2021 Ford Bronco SUVs that appears to be linked to a faulty valve in their 2.7-liter V6.
www.foxbusiness.com
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