I'd run the FF at least 5k from what I've learned on 2.3L Duratec Ranger I had. I did 500, 1500, 3K then up to 7.5K. At 30k it was just starting to loosen up and get decent mpg's. In another twenty years though I bet the guy I sold it to will still be driving it so maybe it wasn't bad after all.
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By the way, does anyone happen to know what the factory fill is on the focus? I know it isn't a special break in oil.
My friend's 2010 Mazda 3 has a similar 2.0 engine, though the dipstick is in a slightly different location.
I had the factory fill changed at 3,000 miles. Subsequent oil changes have been every 3,000 miles, with the most recent with Castrol GTX 5w-20. I plan to continue changing the oil every 3-4k or 4 months, whichever comes first.
This 2.0 engine seems to be a decent econobox 4-cylinder, with acceptable low-end torque for daily commuting.
I had the factory fill changed at 3,000 miles. Subsequent oil changes have been every 3,000 miles, with the most recent with Castrol GTX 5w-20. I plan to continue changing the oil every 3-4k or 4 months, whichever comes first.
This 2.0 engine seems to be a decent econobox 4-cylinder, with acceptable low-end torque for daily commuting.
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
?
The Ford recommended interval IS 6 months or 7500 miles for nearly all driving conditions.
Whether or not you agree with it is another thing, but at least get the facts straight.
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
?
The Ford recommended interval IS 6 months or 7500 miles for nearly all driving conditions.
Whether or not you agree with it is another thing, but at least get the facts straight.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
?
The Ford recommended interval IS 6 months or 7500 miles for nearly all driving conditions.
Whether or not you agree with it is another thing, but at least get the facts straight.
Facts? It's up to driver to look at the dipstick once in a while....while there's nothing wrong with a blanket OCI, it's really going to depend on the conditions in which one drives.
In my wife's case, I can barely get my wife's M1 past a 5k OCI, due to the city driving that she does. Stop and go traffic can really put the smackdown on oil in times like that ...and she has an ecotec, an engine tha is easy on oil. I'm debating on an UOA just to see how spent the oil is..
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
I work at a Ford dealership and many of the new Duratec motors are going to a 10k mile or once a year interval. I think the 4 bangers are still 6 or 7500 though. I would say you could even run the motorcraft or Kendall blend for 7500 on those engines.
Not in a major city they won't.....
?
The Ford recommended interval IS 6 months or 7500 miles for nearly all driving conditions.
Whether or not you agree with it is another thing, but at least get the facts straight.
Facts? It's up to driver to look at the dipstick once in a while....while there's nothing wrong with a blanket OCI, it's really going to depend on the conditions in which one drives.
In my wife's case, I can barely get my wife's M1 past a 5k OCI, due to the city driving that she does. Stop and go traffic can really put the smackdown on oil in times like that ...and she has an ecotec, an engine tha is easy on oil. I'm debating on an UOA just to see how spent the oil is..
Looking at the dipstick will only tell you if the oil is low or dirty. Cant tell much else by looking.
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Facts? It's up to driver to look at the dipstick once in a while....while there's nothing wrong with a blanket OCI, it's really going to depend on the conditions in which one drives.
In my wife's case, I can barely get my wife's M1 past a 5k OCI, due to the city driving that she does. Stop and go traffic can really put the smackdown on oil in times like that ...and she has an ecotec, an engine tha is easy on oil. I'm debating on an UOA just to see how spent the oil is..
Next time, be more specific. If you cited oil consumption as a reason why the oil change interval should not be 7500 miles, then say so.
Blanket OCIs are made after extensive testing to ensure that they are appropriate for the worst case scenario. So provided that the oil level is maintained, the oil will go the distance as long as it is the correct oil for the application.
According to the GM owner's manual, the appropriate interval for your Cavalier is 3 months or 3,000 miles if you operate in city driving and stop-and-go traffic, or 1 year or 7,500 miles if you do long distance driving. So, those intervals should be followed without question. A single UOA does not compare to the amount of oil testing done by a vehicle manufacturer during development testing.
Besides, on what basis did you determine that you cannot get your wife's Ecotec past 5k on Mobil 1? By appearance?
Facts? It's up to driver to look at the dipstick once in a while....while there's nothing wrong with a blanket OCI, it's really going to depend on the conditions in which one drives.
In my wife's case, I can barely get my wife's M1 past a 5k OCI, due to the city driving that she does. Stop and go traffic can really put the smackdown on oil in times like that ...and she has an ecotec, an engine tha is easy on oil. I'm debating on an UOA just to see how spent the oil is..
Next time, be more specific. If you cited oil consumption as a reason why the oil change interval should not be 7500 miles, then say so.
Blanket OCIs are made after extensive testing to ensure that they are appropriate for the worst case scenario. So provided that the oil level is maintained, the oil will go the distance as long as it is the correct oil for the application.
According to the GM owner's manual, the appropriate interval for your Cavalier is 3 months or 3,000 miles if you operate in city driving and stop-and-go traffic, or 1 year or 7,500 miles if you do long distance driving. So, those intervals should be followed without question. A single UOA does not compare to the amount of oil testing done by a vehicle manufacturer during development testing.
Besides, on what basis did you determine that you cannot get your wife's Ecotec past 5k on Mobil 1? By appearance?
No...more by "feel"...the oil is always real dark when I'm done with it anyways. Her car runs different on clean oil than it does on "used up" oil. It runs better quite fine for a good part of the OC....as it gets closer to 5k, it changes. When it happens just depends on what kind of driving that she does during that time. I've been creeping up the OC higher and higher these last few years. (I used to be that 3/3000 guy on M1
) Right now the car is up to 5100 miles, and it tends to be a bit sluggish (at least to me) than normal. I'm going to wait until of the month before I change it, adding a few hundred more miles or so. She is not easy on the car, hence my use for the stuff.
In 7 years of use, I haven't been let down yet. I planning on a used oil analysis just to see if the TBN was to be where I think is or not.
(I might be higher than I think anyways)
And I understand where you are coming from..
In 7 years of use, I haven't been let down yet. I planning on a used oil analysis just to see if the TBN was to be where I think is or not.
(I might be higher than I think anyways)
And I understand where you are coming from..
Well comparing an GM motor to a Ford is apples and oranges. Lots of things effect the service interval and just because its good for a certain engine does not mean another needs the same treatment.
My 2005 Focus consumes 8-12 ounces during the first 2500 miles, and then holds steady until I change the oil at 5000.
PP was smoother than Synpower or Shell Formula or Valvoline conventional. It's a buzzy car. At certain rpm's the doors buzz. With Shell Formula there was a vibration in the windshield most of the time.
I like Fram TG oil filters. There is a little start-up rattle with Motorcraft and Purolator filters.
PP was smoother than Synpower or Shell Formula or Valvoline conventional. It's a buzzy car. At certain rpm's the doors buzz. With Shell Formula there was a vibration in the windshield most of the time.
I like Fram TG oil filters. There is a little start-up rattle with Motorcraft and Purolator filters.
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Well comparing an GM motor to a Ford is apples and oranges. Lots of things effect the service interval and just because its good for a certain engine does not mean another needs the same treatment.
Not trying to compare motors, just making a point about the OCI...even though Ford does say 7500, not everyone may fall into that.
Granted, most abuse their engines anyways (non car folk, that is..)
Watching a lady eating eat her lunch for an hour in her car with the air running would be a good example (and no, I didn't stay to watch...)
Well comparing an GM motor to a Ford is apples and oranges. Lots of things effect the service interval and just because its good for a certain engine does not mean another needs the same treatment.
Not trying to compare motors, just making a point about the OCI...even though Ford does say 7500, not everyone may fall into that.
Granted, most abuse their engines anyways (non car folk, that is..)
Watching a lady eating eat her lunch for an hour in her car with the air running would be a good example (and no, I didn't stay to watch...)
By the way, I notice that the FL910S has a nitrile ADBV. Is there an equivalent filter that has a Silicon rubber one?
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FL910 or 910S? S should = Silicone........
Ah. I just google image searched FL-910S and the pics had a black ADBV.
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On that topic, on my focus would the FL-400S be too long to use safely? I haven't even crawled under the car yet so I don't know.
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