Fleece filter for Mercedes

[WOOCHOW]

Mercedes recommends a "fleece" filter for the exrended OCI on my 2005 E329CDI. I purchased a Hengst E17H D57 over the internet for about $14.
Nowhere on the package is the word fleece and upon inspection, the **** thing looks like paper to me. Does anyone have a clue as to the filter media of this product? Is this the correct filter for the extended OIC? Thanks

 

[Kestas]

The last time I bought a fleece filter for the 320, I can't remember if it looked like paper, but it sure looked whiter than white.

 

[WOOCHOW]

thanks, this one is yellow just like the paper ones I have been using for years.

 

[LargeCarMan]

Ask the Filterguy...he should know.

 

[X72]

WOOCHOW, I think the fleece oil filter applies to gasoline engines to get to the super long drain interval versus the long drain interval of the 229.3 oils. I am assuming that you are not near a dealership where you could go and see the different filters. But a simple phone call to the MB parts department would suffice; just ask if the filters they use for the CDI are the same as for the gasoline engine cars. The "fleece" filters are like kestas says; whiter than white.

The latest oils for MB diesels in Europe are listed here in the 229.31 section (Low Ash). I suspect the particle filter for US cars is differnt than for the European cars.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html
I saw the filter you mentioned at www.allgermanparts.com for $12.22 plus shipping

 

[Filter guy]

No I shouldn't...

I believe the fibers used are a Fleece . Which will make them appear white and fuzzy. However, I do believe it is still a pleated filter.

You might ask what the micron rating is or Beta ratio of the fleece filter just for your own edification..

 

[Filter guy]

Maybe this will help and there is a pic on the link of the "fleece" element ( scroll down for it):

Automotive Oil Filter, Mann + Hummel (Germany)
Introduced in September 2003, this new oil filter is described as “the world’s first fully synthetic oil filter element for automotive applications.” The filter material uses a polyester fleece, which is up to 15 times more resistant to aging than cellulose. The two-layered filter medium consists of a support and drainage layer as well as an active filter layer.

The first fully synthetic oil filter media, the Automotive Oil Filter was developed by Mann + Hummel of Germany. Unlike typical automotive filters, which are cellulose based, this filter is not attacked by the lube oil while the car is running. This allows these polyester-based filters to last three to five times longer than paper products, depending on the vehicle, according to Markus Kolczyk, head of filter development.
Launched at the Frankfurt motor show in 2003, these filters comprise a support and drainage layer as well as an active filter layer with an optimized layer set-up. This set-up and the individual layers are specifically matched to one another to guarantee maximum filtration performance with regard to filter fineness, dirt-holding capacity and pressure loss. The completely synthetic filter element technology and the filter media can be used for all engine applications and designs of filter elements and can also be used retro-compatibly for existing applications. Additionally, this filter’s disposal is more environmentally pleasing than cellulose materials.
http://www.nonwovens-industry.com/articles/2005/01/feature3.php

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[LargeCarMan]

Very Cool...I really believe that celulose has limitations on the mileage before the oil and various other chemicals in the oil attack the material and degrade it.

I also believe that a material of this type or the type Donaldson or Amsoil uses will be nessessary to achieve 20 to 30 thousand mile OCI's.

Its like anything else...and using steel as an example. A stainless exhaust system will last many more years than a plain steel exhaust system. Why, the stainless material is better material and a good investment over plain steel.

Thus, other superior materials in the oil filters will filter longer without degrading...come on folks..lets change our paradime's.

 

[Ray H]

Not saying that paper filter elements are the end-all of filter technology, but resin-coated cellulose stands up very well to hot motor oil, moisture, and acids - even out to Honda's 20,000 mile suggested filter change intervals. Paper works quite well as air filter material, and is inherently biodegradable through bacterial action. Someone will have to prove to me that unwoven polyester fleece is that much superior before I'll rush to judgment against paper. (Not saying it can't be done, but self-serving promotional blather from a trade organization website doesn't do it for me.) As to the notion that "newer" is "better", anyone care to comment why the Next Great Thing in automobiles in 1958 - the Edsel - tanked after just two years on the market? Cellulose fibers are the product of a renewable resource - trees. Environmentally persistant polyester fibers are the product of non-renewable petroleum reserves.

 

[WOOCHOW]

Thanks for the info guys. Through my investigation it appears that the fleece element is for the gas cars, and the paper is for the diesel. A representative from Hengst filter informed me that they make only one "synthetic media" filter and its application was for the gasoline powered Benz motors. A trip to my dealer showed no fleece filter for my application either and the service techs said they had been using the paper filter for oil changes. It seems the owner's manual is at fault here. Thanks again for the help.